I am a guy who has been lurking in the dark here at the discussion list. All of you are probably thinking "The heck with this guy" but listen to me, this place sucks without me! lol I still think that the best creed song in concert is With Arms Wide Open. That was the ultimate show stopper. We all stopped moving, then the song started, and we all knew the lyrics, the best moment of my life was the first few words then i realized this is the best song in the world. So i had a very profound moment in my life at that moment in my life. And i was finally happy.