================================================ Subject: Re: NCR: religion & respect From: "Joe Earles" To: Date: Wed 19 Jun 2002 11:43:49 -0400 ================================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian T Hayden To: Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 4:37 AM Subject: NCR: religion & respect > Man i have only been on here for two days and ive seen more fighting and > disagreements then i thought could be possible. i posted a message about why > i love creed and got two responses, while religious and other topics seem to > dominate this board: intended for creed fans to talk about creed. SO in short, > if your not going to be nice DONT POST. im tired of reading through your > crap just to find people who have something positive to speak. The feeling is mutual. > im sure i speak not > only for myself in asking you to respect the other members of this board, but > for many many fans who just want to cut the crap. > On the topic of religion, i'll be brief b/c basically i could go on for hours. So you are going to demonstrate your dislike for the topic of religion by adding to the conversation about religion? Okay. That makes about as much sense as anything else you've had to say. > I agree with the statement that not everyone on here believes in the same > bible, and i merely would like to state a different perspective, if i can enlighten > someone and bring peace to them the way i have for myself i would love to, Yeah, you seem rather serene. > but i have to give them the opportunity. I do not believe in the bible as do > christians, but i do not feel that the bible is false. Merely a collection of stories > to prove a point and as evidence of a supreme being. So if the Bible is a pack of lies and made up stories how can you possibly, from the standpoint of pure logic, say that you believe in the Diety of which the book (or collection of books, if you will) speaks? > Have you ever heard the story of Paul Bunyan? based on fact but > exaggereated for effect and to prove a point. same thing. So Jesus wasn't a man, but rather a big blue ox? This is riveting. Do go on... > I believe that god does not want us to look to a book for our answers, but to > our own hearts. ...lest we be bound by anyone's rules but our own. > WE have to find what WE believe; self-enlightenment is the goal. its much less > confrontational (except most people HAVE A COW when i tell them this. it > is just absolutely unacceptable to them) and it is much more rewarding to find > god for yourself. So if we're looking into our own hearts for truth, then God must be found in our own hearts, therefore we all are God, correct? > and i purposefully did not capitalize so as to show that it is not "God" but > who you find as god. THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON, merely untitled as > such. i only ask that you THINK about what ive said, I'd rather not, if you don't mind... > not believe it, just think about it. also think about this because i know this is > troubling to me about catholics (merely because i am associated with many, i > PROMISE i am not trying to single out anyone) NAHHH... OF COURSE NOT.... > but do you really believe what youve been TAUGHT since you were young? > do you realize how MANIPULATABLE you have been most likely for as > long as you can remember? Okay, I *might* respond to this one off-list if I decide you're worth the time but seeing as I know of several Catholics on this list, I won't steal their thunder (nor will I call them out - they all know who they are and they are all more than capable of responding to this). Debbi, you wanted a s**t storm. You got one, bay-bee... ROCK ON, CREED! To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp