================================================ Subject: Re: Hello Everyone From: "Len v.d. Westhuizen" To: Date: Fri 7 Jun 2002 15:49:14 +0200 ================================================ Hi Elijah Welcome to the list, I'm new myself. In some aspects I do see where you're coming from, there was also a point where I asked myself why doesn't Scott just come out and say blatantly that he's a christian.( Or maby he has, correct me if I'm wrong) But on the other hand, I became a christian a few years ago but has since drifted off a bit and I'm not exactly living the life God wants me to. And as bad as I feel about that, I can't seem to help it. Having said that, had Creed been more direct I might have been initially put off by them. Thats where I agree with Sandy. I think Creed is a band that doesn't accept just anything that is thrown at them, and they will question and sometimes rebel. That way they also appeal to people who think of church and christianity as "laws" "controlling" etc. and wants nothing to do with it. Len South Africa From: Sandy Carter Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:54:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Hello Everyone Hi Elijah: First, welcome to the list. I have to tell you that I for one don't agree with the notion that Creed because the members are Christians, should be a Christian band and blatantly say God is their inspiration. First of all, I think professing to be a Christian band would close many minds to the music, no matter what they might have to say. I think if the lyrics were any more direct or sounded preachy, there are many (including myself) who would be turned off for good. The ambiguity of the lyrics leaves much room for interpretation of meaning, allowing a song to be of personal inspiration. Too often, I find that people expect to be spoon fed what others think and believe in order to validate themselves. This mentality limits creative and individual thought. Why must it be so directly spelled out for it to be right? The Bible itself can be interpreted in many ways. Even the Word of God is up for discussion. And specifically, who is to say that just because music is Creed's gift, their talent they share, their chosen career--that they are required to use it to spread God's Word? Is it their duty to do this? I would think that if the members of Creed who are Christians are living the life, this would be more important than what they write about in lyrics they sell. Scott Stapp explained (and I'm not quoting here) that many of the lyrics reflect a time of confusion (on MOP and HC) and uncertainty in his life as he challenged and defined his spiritual beliefs. Wouldn't the indirect lyrics reflect this state of mind? I'm wondering why is it not good enough that Creed addresses spirituality and presents God indirectly in their lyrics. I think that by saying that Creed is being coy by not confronting their audience (ith the fact that they have a certain spiritual belief) is to assume to much about the music and the writer. Creed has a generally positive message. And oh yes, they do have an agenda. They have an image to uphold, and that is what sells the CD's and concert tickets. To think otherwise would be naive. I think if someone is looking for cut and dry answers, or harder truths, they might find what they are looking for elsewhere. Sandy Carter near Houston, TX _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp