================================================ Subject: Re: Elijah's comments From: "deb" To: Date: Fri 7 Jun 2002 03:39:55 -0500 ================================================ Hey Elijah, If Creed started doing what you propose, write lyrics that slap Christian beliefs in the listeners face, they would definitely lose me as a fan. I really hate it when people are in my face about their religion. Perhaps for you their work is "equivalent of a watered down proverb or parable put to excellent music." I really don't see any reason why Creed ought to change their writing style in lyrics to appease a small faction of people. There are many types of music to select from. I'm saying this with the utmost kindness and not in an evil way: Perhaps you need to go over to the Christian section of the music store to find what you are looking for. As for your questions... "How powerful are the messages in Creed's music?": Creed's music is as powerful to each person as that individual makes it to be. For you, the message may be "Christian" in nature. For others, the message is different, and that's ok because their art really lends itself to interpretation. Again, I think what you are looking for is more of an in your face Christian music genre and you won't find that in Creed's work. Your other question: "What are the messages?" The answers to that question can include such a wide response of interpretations that we could compile an entire book. Creed's work has many messages that are left to the interpretation of the listener. Perhaps you wish to chat about a specific song that Creed released? DebG >From: "William Elijah Horton" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:47 PM >Subject: Hello Everyone > > > > Hi, I'm Elijah Horton from Kinston, NC > > > > You can check out my website here (www.elijah.barrysworld.net) and my >online > > gaming group here (www.renaissancegames.com) > > > > I joined this discussion list to read other people's views on how Creed's > > music, and popular music in general, can be a positive or negative >influence > > on spiritual issues, and what belief the band might hold in particular. > > > > I generally feel that Creed's music is obviously not blatantly Christian >in > > design or writing. I feel that Scott Stap and Mark Tremonti do have at >least > > a good understanding of biblical scripture and principles (you can see > > various portions of some verses quoted in many of Creed's songs) > > > > For those who say I'm just limiting the band to religous elements: I'm >not. > > Creed is obviously more about social issues and self awareness. But I'm >sure > > there are those who would find my proposed discussion interesting. > > > > Anyways. I think that much of Creed's music, in the religous context, is >the > > equivalent of a watered down proverb or parable put to excellent music. > > (Yes, the music is very good, there's no need to state that here ;-) ) > > But I want some harder truths in the music regarding Creed's spiritual > > feelings, and it's something I do not see. Come out and say something that > > cannot be thought of in many ways. Making broad visual statements such as > > "To the place with golden streets" and "Where blind men see" can >refereence > > Heaven, in most cases that is the picture brought to mind. But why not >come > > out and call it Heaven, in the song itself? The band seems to shy away >from > > putting itself into any one "religous" crowd, and instead tells it's > > listeners that maybe God's here, or maybe He's there, put never pointing > > straight at him. I hope this is not how the band really feels about their > > beliefs. > > > > The band has no agenda, understandably. It makes it much easier to not be > > stereotyped (that happens anyways) and allows for much more farther >reaching > > music. I personally feel that as long as they are trying to relate to > > people, they make a difference in people's lives. > > > > Anyways, in replies, the question is basically: "How powerful are the > > messages in Creed's music?" > > and "What are the messages?" > > > > - Elijah > > > > P.S. Flames will be squelched. I am only trying to start a discussion, not > > trying to thump Bibles or anything. If you have questions about my beliefs > > or Christianity in general, feel free to ask me. I will gladly answer. To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp