================================================ Subject: Re: Hello Everyone From: "Thielmann, Tammy" To: Date: Wed 5 Jun 2002 10:36:59 -0500 ================================================ You got me thinking now! Very insightful. > ---------- > From: William Elijah Horton[SMTP:elijah@ESN.NET] > Reply To: William Elijah Horton > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:47 PM > To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > Subject: Hello Everyone > > Hi, I'm Elijah Horton from Kinston, NC > > You can check out my website here (www.elijah.barrysworld.net) and my > online > gaming group here (www.renaissancegames.com) > > I joined this discussion list to read other people's views on how Creed's > music, and popular music in general, can be a positive or negative > influence > on spiritual issues, and what belief the band might hold in particular. > > I generally feel that Creed's music is obviously not blatantly Christian > in > design or writing. I feel that Scott Stap and Mark Tremonti do have at > least > a good understanding of biblical scripture and principles (you can see > various portions of some verses quoted in many of Creed's songs) > > For those who say I'm just limiting the band to religous elements: I'm > not. > Creed is obviously more about social issues and self awareness. But I'm > sure > there are those who would find my proposed discussion interesting. > > Anyways. I think that much of Creed's music, in the religous context, is > the > equivalent of a watered down proverb or parable put to excellent music. > (Yes, the music is very good, there's no need to state that here ;-) ) > But I want some harder truths in the music regarding Creed's spiritual > feelings, and it's something I do not see. Come out and say something that > cannot be thought of in many ways. Making broad visual statements such as > "To the place with golden streets" and "Where blind men see" can > refereence > Heaven, in most cases that is the picture brought to mind. But why not > come > out and call it Heaven, in the song itself? The band seems to shy away > from > putting itself into any one "religous" crowd, and instead tells it's > listeners that maybe God's here, or maybe He's there, put never pointing > straight at him. I hope this is not how the band really feels about their > beliefs. > > The band has no agenda, understandably. It makes it much easier to not be > stereotyped (that happens anyways) and allows for much more farther > reaching > music. I personally feel that as long as they are trying to relate to > people, they make a difference in people's lives. > > Anyways, in replies, the question is basically: "How powerful are the > messages in Creed's music?" > and "What are the messages?" > > - Elijah > > P.S. Flames will be squelched. I am only trying to start a discussion, not > trying to thump Bibles or anything. If you have questions about my beliefs > or Christianity in general, feel free to ask me. I will gladly answer. > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, > visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp