================================================ Subject: Re: What if your words could be judged like a crime? (WAS: Msg From Admin: List Changes) From: "Joe Earles" To: Date: Sun 17 Mar 2002 00:02:10 -0500 ================================================ It's a matter of principle. You'd be hard pressed to find a posting wherein I have ever cursed. Why Because to the best of my knowledge it's never happened. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asaf Atiya" To: Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: What if your words could be judged like a crime? (WAS: Msg From Admin: List Changes) > I don't >think< you're metaphor is in place, and I'll explain why. > > As you may have noticed, there aren't many people on this list which haven't > flamed, attacked, and sent other intentionally hateful messages to other > list members. Consequently, dealing with them equates dealing with the whole > list. There isn't just one shoplifter in this shop... > > Moreover, the task that you have suggested for the moderators is time > consuming, and many other issues might arise while performing it - such as > deciding what is the line, who is guilty and what are the punishments. > > But regardless of that, I want to ask you a question, because this I just > can't understand: What are you fighting for? You're right to curse? Or is > this just a matter of principle? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Earles" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: What if your words could be judged like a crime? (WAS: Msg From > Admin: List Changes) > > > > > Another thing: I think, that the use of 'What If?' in this context is > > wrong. > > > The song was written as an answer to critics that have judged Creed. > You, > > as > > > a person, haven't been judged one way or the other. > > > > But I have. I've been judged by the powers that be insofar as someone else > > has to decide whether or not what I have to say will fit a certain > > definition of list-worthiness. No one, in my opinion, has that right. > We're > > given a set of rules. We SHOULD be able to self-govern on the basis of > those > > rules. If one or two or ten or FIFTY people can't, THEY should be dealt > with > > because THEY are the problem. You don't moderate a mail list, you dont > shut > > down a BBS... you find the source(s) of the problem and deal with > it(them). > > If the store I'm shopping in apprehends a shoplifter, I'm not then asked > to > > empy my pockets because I was in the store with the shoplifter. I'm > treated > > as an honest and respectable patron until I PROVE myself to be otherwise. > > Before I post to this list I'm proverbially asked to empty my pockets and > I > > think that really sucks. > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, > visit: > > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp