================================================ Subject: Creed's initial impact From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Wed 7 Nov 2001 00:27:40 -0500 ================================================ Marc, I first heard Creed's song "MOP" on the radio. That was back in 1997. My initial thought was that I liked the song. That the band was probably a one hit wonder. That the rest of their music might not be as good. However, I loved the song. The emotional expressions that I felt with the song. I had to have the album with the song. no matter if the rest of the album would be poor. This was when Creed was fairly unheard of. For the other aspects that continued to spur my like for Creed. I would admit that it is the Internet presence that Creed has. It was the web address that was on the album. I guess that Creed being my first Internet band. I really have an attachment to this list. In the earlier days, I also had an interest in the BB and its contents. I'm not impressed with the lacking bass player that has happened. The last show that I saw with Creed. The original members were still intact. My opinions about the band have changed throughout the time. I hate the every two years for an album. the projected attitude of an ego that I've heard on discussion lists that are dedicated to Brian Marshall and his efforts. I'm not sure what Creed is anymore. But like an initial connection to mostly anything. You seem to put on the blinders to changing scenerios. I loved the news regarding the benifit concerts for the homeless. Charities dedicated to helping build families. Going back a bit to the BB days. When I initially went to the BB. It was the old threaded form. Where you clicked on threads. Which took you all over the place. The subjects lines of the threads never changed. Much like this Creed list. The subjects and fan base were dominantly Christian. But their were those that commented on issues that related to music. Leaving the post off here. i believe that it is the inter-relations between the Internet presence and the general state that music was in. that allowed Creed to get as far as they have. It was luck that a song about the birth of his son. Plus the rather pop song "Higher" was so overwhelming received by the popular music crowd. As answered by mostly popular music listeners. They do listen to other songs from the band. But it is apparent that the two songs sold HC to as great of an extent that it did over MOP. One thing that Creed has is a wide demographic base of fans. From the classic rock fans through the popular music fans. Jim Marc Levitt wrote: > i then have to rephrase my criticism. > > corporate marketing is bullshit. as with metallica, all the other bands i > mentioned worked tirelessly for years to do what ad-wizards can pull off in > a flash. that indicates a couple things to me. one is that those bands > worked really, really hard. another is that it wasn't until they received > the added boost from corporate marketing that they gained widespread > popularity. that indicates to me that even the greatest band in the world > won't garner much attention without the help of corporate promotion. it > also says that even bad bands can become popular if they're properly > marketed. > > > on 11/6/01 1:45 AM, Keith P. Mears at kthulu@COMTECK.COM wrote: > > >>I must agree with Debbi on this one. It's WELL known that until "One", >>Metallica got NO radio or MTV play. Yet through a combination of word of >>mouth, MASSIVE and UNENDING touring, and to a lesser extent underground tape >>trading, they marketed themselves. Just because they didn't have major >>CORPORATE marketing doesn't mean they werenm't marketed. >>----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>>i haven't got my head anywhere near my legs. i only wish i were that >>>flexible. but that's still not the point... >>> >>>many bands have developed their fanbase and renown the good-old-fashioned >>>way...touring. Phish, for example, toured for 12 years before being >>>acknowledged on any radio station. Soundgarden and Nirvana existed for >>> >>four >> >>>years each before they cut a record deal. I once saw a video of a concert >>>of Led Zeppelin performing Led Zeppelin I to a stone-faced, emotionless >>>crowd of 40. None of the audience had ever heard the album before. It >>> >>took >> >>>another two years of playing their music before anyone gave a shit. Sonic >>>Youth celebrated their 21st anniversary this year. They have never >>>marketted an album, and have only had one single ever play on radio. yet, >>>no one would doubt that they are among the best, most influential artists >>> >>of >> >>>their generation. Same deal with the Sex Pistols, and with Fugazi. >>>Nowadays, a band just needs to be playing in the right bar at the right >>> >>time >> >>>and they'll be stars by midday. Pearl Jam, who I love, was by no means >>>deserving of a national following as quickly as they received it. NOR WAS >>>CREED!!!!! >>> >>>There are TONS of amazing groups that have intentionally avoided the >>>pressures of marketing and corporate culture. You've probably never heard >>>of them, but you could just as easily fall in love with them...IF you were >>>pummelled over the head with their songs every waking moment. Marketing >>> >>does >> >>>NOT play a role in everything...just the things people are customarily >>>exposed to. >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well, unless you have your head jammed firmly between your legs, >>>>marketing plays a role in everything. >>>> >>To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: >>http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp >> > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > -- If your aim in life is nothing, you can't miss. To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp