I didn't say anything about Metallica, 'cause I knew you will add it:) But that's basically the same thing as with Radiohead. Telling the truth I prefer more Black Album and the more "new" things that this old stuff. But it's because I'm not into that hard metal stuff. And yesterday I was actually arguing with my cousin, who said Metallica isn't good anymore,etc. and he prefers the old stuff.I'm not sure, but if Metallica recorded "Master of Puppets" or anything like that all the time, wouldn't the fans get sick of it or something?In my opinion there is a bunch of kids who just repeat what others say. Most metal freaks say Metallica -as you said- sell out, so the kids agree, 'cause they think if people say it it's right and want to stay cool or something. I know this sounds stupid, but that's how I see it.

Ok, one more thing, anyone heard this song by Afroman called "Because I got high" ??? It's funny as hell! (my opinion of course,lol)

~maybe if we are surrounded in beauty, someday we will become what we see~ jewel

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith P. Mears

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 11:37 AM

Subject: Re: Odp: Rock

You make an excellent point here, Agie. I personally have never been much of a Radiohead fan, preferring my music heavier, louder, and faster (although speed is less important now than it used to be). However, there is no question that 1)they are extremely talented, and 2)they are as innovative as they are talented. (WARNING: You knew it had to come sooner or later! Metallica reference ahead.) Millions of people said exactly the same things about Metallica when they released their self-titled fifth studio album/CD. It was LIGHT YEARS from anything they had previously done. Suddenly there were cries of "SELL-OUTS!" everywhere. NOW, "The Black Album" is considered one of the best in rock, and with good reason. Far from selling out, it expanded their musical horizons, and showed MILLIONS of new fans just HOW good this band really is. Load and Reload saw more of the band pushing the musical envelope, though despite the fact that I do love both CD's, the effect wasn't as good with Reload as it was with Load. Garage Inc. saw a tribute to the music which inspired the guys to BECOME Metallica, and while some of it was not up to their usual high standards, others MORE than made up for any shortcomings (for ME, just the inclusion of "Am I Evil?" and "Blitzkrieg", originally on Kill 'em All, but removed when they signed with Elektra, makes the purchase worthwhile). And of course, the LATEST triumph, S&M. Is there ANY other METAL band that could successfully collaborate with a full symphony orchestra, and actually pull it off without sounding hokey? I think not.