================================================ Subject: Re: Has the band posted before? From: "creed -7m3 - live" To: Date: Wed 19 Sep 2001 22:13:24 -0400 ================================================ Thanks Tara for passing on the ideal about idolatry. I believe in not putting any symbolic image above God. But i differ in my extremism. Even though I cannot translate symbolics, toward the love for my brothers and sisters for freedom. I'll participate in some of the ritualistic candle burning and flag waving. Though, I cannot pledge my allegiance to the flag. But to which it stands, I can. However, if what the flag stood for changed. You can be sure that I'd burn it. However, the flag is supposed to stand for freedom. So I feel that those that wave it are OK. As long as it is the ideals that they are supporting. Let me know if the words are spelled correctly. This evolution mailer program is absolutely great. Jim On Wed, 2001-09-19 at 03:45, Tara wrote: > As far as religion and the flag... as a child, I wasn't allowed to say the > Pledge of Allegiance in class when everyone else did, because it was against > the religion my family followed. Pledging allegiance to a flag was > considered idolatry, and a sin. Something about how people should worship > ONLY God, nothing and no one else, including the flag and the country... > that everything else is secondary... the whole religion is basically a > complete misinterpretation of just about everything, imo. (Do you know how > weird it makes a kid feel to be the ONLY student who had to stay seated and > silent during the Pledge and the singing of "My Country Tis of Thee" in the > first grade? When I moved back in the 8th grade, everyone remembered me as > "the girl who couldn't say the Pledge of Allegiance"). > Tara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:06 AM > Subject: Re: Has the band posted before? > > > > i'm certainly not questioning anyone's beliefs, or > > feelings...i truly believe that more people would be > > displaying flags if they weren't in such short > > demand...hence my idea to print them up and pass them > > out...or my suggestion that local businesses could do > > the same...as for displaying them being against > > religions, wow, i wonder about that...could that truly > > be a reason? i ask, only because i don't know...i know > > that catholic churches display the american > > flag...beyond that, i couldn't say...can i also just say > > kudos to my local arby's...who on one side of their sign > > display 'united we stand' and i forget what's on the > > other, but it's another patriotic message...and the > > catholic church down the street, when the 6 pm bells > > rang, went on to ring out 'america the beautiful'...the > > local lutheran church has a message on their sign as > > well, which is patriotic yet religious...again, i don't > > recall the exact message... > > Lee > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp -- Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. -- Frank Zappa To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp