================================================ Subject: Re: Has the band posted before? From: To: Date: Wed 19 Sep 2001 23:04:05 EDT ================================================ Well I'm a Christian, Baptist denomination to be specific. I beleive that Jesus came and sacrificed his life to assure that we will no longer have to die (eternally) for our sins, given that we accept him into our hearts and lives as our Savior, and beleive that he is the ONLY way to Heaven. Not through good deeds, or following rules. Because no one but Jesus is or was perfect. As far as idolotry is concerned, I beleive that showing respect and honor to someone or something is different from worshiping it. I love my children, and will always hold them dear in my heart. But I do not worship them. I love Creed. But I do not worship them. I love the USA, and the flag that represents it, but I do not worship it. In the Bible the Israelites protected the Ark of the Covenant because it represented their faith in God. And God supported that, because they didn't WORSHIP it. They also held high the scrolls, which now make up the Bible. But they did not worship them. When it comes to idolotry today, we can also question whether it is OK to pray to and otherwise honor the Virgin Mary, and other Saints respected by the Catholic faith. I don't agree with doing so, but I also beleive that idolotry is ultimately what is held in a particular individual's heart. If you worship the government, the President, the Constitution, the flag, you are holding that above and before God. He said to "hold no other gods before Me." If you are not doing that, you are OK. God alone will look at our hearts and determine what's inside, and we will be held accountable. I, for one, am very proud to have the American flag hanging outside my door. I'm also very proud of the car I drive and the house I own, and the business I've started. I don't worship one more than the other. Some people worship money. Again, it lies in the heart, not the object in question. In my opinion... Jen In a message dated 9/19/2001 8:46:33 PM Central America Standard Tim, creed7m3live@COLUMBUS.RR.COM writes: << A Christian is someone that thinks that Jesus Christ came to sacrifice his earthly life. So that he would allow God to forgive you for your human misgivings. Which keep you from being pure enough, for God to accept you. There are probably thousands of different Christian religions that belief in the idolatry factor. I've heard it before and I have been exposed to many Christian factions. A few of them believed in the idolatry factor. Jim I don't know which Christian faith that it was. But there are probably many. >> To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp