================================================ Subject: Re: The team From: To: Date: Sun 16 Sep 2001 06:05:14 +0000 ================================================ amen to that jim...treat others as you want to be treated...do unto others...they may claim to be christianity, but they are just damn plain common sense... Lee -- ~~they laugh at us because we're different; we laugh at them because they're all the same~~Drowning Pool ~~Be careful what you learn, sometimes knowing burns~~Virgos Merlot > Great recap Jen, > > I read the tribe thing and several aspects about the said to come > battle. Though we know nothing about when God will intervene. I do > question the lack of intervention now. > > I am not Christian, Muslem, Jewish or any derived religion. Since they > seem to be made from a prehistoric rendition. One that primitive man has > always flock to. > Be it a tribe, that throws the innocent into volcanoes. So they would > appease the volcano gods. A God from Greek Mythology. Or a God that was > derived from the Pegan Faith. Where sacrifice was needed to appease a > God. > My view of God is that he protects now. He punishes now. He is here with > us now. He does not require tokens of appriciation. He is not a > bloodthirsty being. Believe in him. (Though I really wouldn't give a > gender to God). As you believe in yourself. Treat others, as you would > want to be treated. > I respect your views. They are your religious beliefs. I don't want you > to change your views. Since I do not want to be a carrier of lost souls. > I just hope that we do not tackle this problem, from a religious tactic. > Though, the building of the temple, would be a nice thing to see. Since > it would allow us to verify, the religious beliefs, from the bible. > > Thanks for your views. As well as the interpretation of the bible > context. > > Jim > > > > On Fri, 2001-09-14 at 02:10, Lvablemm@cs.com wrote: > > Well there is no timeline in the Bible as to when the Final Battle will > > occur, in relation to when the Temple will be rebuilt. But as I understand > > it, the temple must be built in order that Christ can come back and sit on > > the throne. The Bible also names several tribes, as they were known when > > Christ was alive on earth, and indicates whose side they will be on. > > Scholars have researched these tribes, and found that the enemies of Israel > > will likely be the Arab nations surrounding them, including Iraq, and it even > > indicates Russia. The nations who will join Israel in the fight are > > described as "The merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof." > > (Ezekiel 38:13) The ships of Tarshish were involved in trading. Tarshish is > > described as a merchant and maritime power, which points to Britain, which is > > one of the largest trading nations. Also note, that the Lion is an emblem of > > Britain, and has been for a long time. Britain is an "old country," while > > the young "lion" may refer to America, being an English speaking nation > > deriving from Britain, and also being a "young country" in comparison with > > European and Middle Eastern countries. We are also a leader in trading. > > > > What the Bible indicates, is that though it will appear that Israel and it's > > allies will win, it will be more difficult than it appears. The "winner" > > will be Israel ultimately, but it will take Godly intervention. "At that > > time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children > > of thy people, and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since > > there was a nation even to that same time, and at that time thy people shall > > be delivered." Daniel 12v1 Michael means "He who is like God." Jesus > > Christ is referred to in the Bible as "like unto his father." > > > > But that doesn't mean that the "Jews" will be the winners. God has made a > > promise to the Jews, and their ancestors that he will create his Kingdom on > > earth. This won't be done for their benefit, but to fulfill what he has said > > will happen. And those who beleive in the grace and forgiveness of God > > through Jesus Christ are the ones who will be THE WINNERS. Because this is > > not the "end," It's just the beginning of eternity. > > > > Jen > > > > In a message dated 9/13/2001 4:08:33 PM Central America Standard Tim, > > creed7m3live@COLUMBUS.RR.COM writes: > > > > << In my opinion and not based upon religion directly. But I think that the > > bonds with Israel and the United States will become stronger. Since they > > are both seen as enemies to the superiority of the Muslem middle east. > > > > I hear religious based talk that we are "The Great Satan" and Israel is > > considered by Muslem extremists to not have the right to exist. > > Whatever the case is. I'm pretty certain that Israel building a temple > > would not cause the world to come to an end. > > But it would be interesting to see it built. Mainly to find out if the > > account is true. > > In religious context. What is supposed to happen? Are the Muslems, > > Christians or Jewish supposed to make it through? > > > > Jim >> > -- > The life which is unexamined is not worth living. > -- Plato > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp