Re: NCR: philosophical talk is back

From: "Dawn DelliSanti" <CREEDGIRLL@AOL.COM>
To: <CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM>
Date: Sun
2 Sep 2001 16:19:45 EDT

In a message dated 9/1/01 10:28:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
creed7m3live@columbus.rr.com writes:


If we rephrased the question. Which words would be more appropriate?
> >
> > If a person that is highly intelligent and exceeds in creative thinking.
> > Do you think that they would end up being led to a nervous breakdown,
>
>     I think this wording might be better.  Of course, I think the
definitions
> of what we view as intelligent and exceeding in creative thinking can
vary.  
> I guess I think that the whole question is general but tries to be way
too
> specific to "one group" of people.  Of course, some people who are
"viewed"
> as highly intelligent may have a breakdown, but the "average" and "below
> average" could very well have a breakdown too.  I don't necessarily
believe
> there is some HUGE correlation between highly intelligent and breakdown.  
> Couldn't one who is NOT highly intelligent have a breakdown, because they
> feel inadequate?  Couldn't this highly intelligent person have a
breakdown,
> because they still don't feel they are intelligent enough?     


You are right. People that are considered to be average are just as

likely to go insane. As a person that is considered a genius.
Depending upon the pressure put on them. By society or family members.
The might still feel like they are not smart enough. But I'd venture a
guess, that a more likely reason would be from peer pressure and
ridicule.
>
>  I prefer the term breakdown more than the term insane.  I believe that
society plays a very large part as a whole, but in the end, I think it is
the individual's ability or lack of ability to NOT internalize what is
being said or how they are being treated.  If one is constantly being
treated in a certain way, such as others making comments about their
intelligence, and they normally don't attack others on a personal level,
but they take everything in, and eventually explode, instead of being able
to ignore what is being said or confronting the people who are attacking
them, othes might start to believe that perhaps this individual truly
believes that what others are saying about them is true.  I think that a
person that internalizes everything and doesn't get things off of their
chest or communicate about things on a daily basis, will experience a
breakdown a lot quicker than one that does.  Here, intelligence doesn't
really play a part.
> > Yes, it is, but it is also a tough thing to feel as though you can
never
> > measure up due to lacking intelligence.

I agree with that view. It is tough to feel that you could never
understand something. No matter how much effort that you put into
something.

I'm kind of at a loss with the term intelligence. Since I have always
thought that it simply meant the ability to catch onto concepts easily.
Without a lot of explaination.

I have very mixed views on the term intelligence and its definition, and
how I definie it.  I will get back to you on this.