================================================ Subject: Re: NCR: ABSOLUTELY STUNNED From: "]\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" To: Date: Tue 28 Aug 2001 16:53:29 -0400 ================================================ Again... this makes it okay to say that Jim does Crack? On multiple occasions? Basically, Jim had slander being spread against him on multiple occasions, and he lashed out in a way that he knew would hit best. 2 weeks of getting attacked can be equaled out pretty fast with one comment if that's what you want to do. I'm calling biased. I am not in any way saying that what Jim said was right (haven't I said all this before?)... but it wasn't any more right that Keith said the things that he did. Jim took something that he knew would hurt Keith, and that was what he used. Keith made something up about Jim, and threw it at him on 2 separate occasions. I personally would be extremely pissed off if someone chimed in on the list that I am a drug user... especially on 2 separate occasions... and I would lash back a lot sooner than Jim did, and I would probably not stop at one comment. You replied back (while I was picking Jayson up from school, so pardon the delays) that Jim chose to throw common respect out the window. Well, I feel that wrongfully accusing someone of being a drug addict is also throwing respect out the window... as is attacking all Linux users, and grouping them all into the "homosexual" category, simply because most Linux users choose (oh yeah... Linux users have an opinion, and have a right to voice that opinion) not to use Microsoft operating systems. Does this mean that I'm allowed to group, and also cut down all Microsoft users because they keep falling for the "oops, we have some bugs in this operating system, so for $49.95, you can buy a fixed version when we put the next Windows Product out" group, right? Cool. How about I cut down all AOL users because most of the unsubscribe requests that come through the list are from people with an AOL address? Oh wait... that's been done already. Scratch that. And as I added before, are you able to prove that Jim in fact did not ever read anything like that? And even if he didn't, does that then make it right to call him a drug user? But I'm guessing that no matter what is said here, it's okay for Keith and Kevin and King to cut down on whomever they want, but those people aren't allowed to lash back. Thanks for making that clear. ¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbi R To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Re: NCR: ABSOLUTELY STUNNED I didn't say anything because they weren't taking personal information that he'd shared with the list and shit on him with it, which is exactly what he did to Keith. The only time I saw him get shit on was specifically related to Linux. And since that was the subject matter of the discussion I had no issue with it. Any more than I did the Windoze, etc. I took it for what it was worth to me and responded accordingly. I never called him for hitting me below the belt on it nor did I think that anyone hit him below the belt because he was talking shit and couldn't back it up. Another example: If someone tells the list that they'd been paralyzed in a car accident a few years back and some time later gets into a heated discussion on the merits of stereo versus monophonic sound, I wouldn't consider comments akin to "oh go jump in a lake. Oh.. Wait... You can't. Nevermind" at all acceptable and would react the same way. It's a blindsided attack based on personal information shared with the list. He was wrong. Period. Any way you slice it. To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp