================================================ Subject: Re: NCR: ABSOLUTELY STUNNED - very long From: "]\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" To: Date: Tue 28 Aug 2001 16:54:06 -0400 ================================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin L. Brown To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: Re: NCR: ABSOLUTELY STUNNED - very long > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" > > Can any of > > you remember the exact URL to every website you have read something on in > > the past month? > The URL doesn't exist because his statement is false. It's a lie. You > can't back up a lie because there is no source. And you can prove that he never saw a site with that info on it. Cool. Since you know who has and hasn't been to what sites, can you PLEASE remind me of the URL for where I read "the attackee's" side of the story from the Scott Stapp Club Brawl? I've been trying to find it for a couple weeks now for a friend, and can't remember where I saw it. Oh wait... I can't remember... that must mean I made it up. I am lying. The statement is false. Right? > > How are you to honestly know what he has and has not seen and read on > > websites? > I know he didn't see anything official about Microsoft forcing people to > upgrade their current OS because it's factually incorrect. He was lying. > He knows it, too. That's why he tried to change the topic to Office. See Above > > God forbid that we might actually discuss the option of a > > operating system other than one produced by Microsoft, and the benefits of > > using said system. > I'd be more than happy to discuss the benefits of both systems and how they > compare. Too bad Jim didn't feel like doing that and instead decided to > make up lies about one side. And once or twice, there actually was kind responses from you and your clique... but they were rare, and most were filled with cutdowns. > > See, the point is, not once were we outright attacking Windows... > "we"? Maybe not. He certainly was. Actually, we (Jim and I) were having a decent conversation about Linux versus Windows, when compaired to the needs we were after in an operating system. Windows didn't have what either of us wanted, so we chose to look to Linux, which did. From there, the attacks began, and at this point, you began to place words in my mouth regarding Linux making it easier for hackers, which is you starting lies. Again, it's okay for you to lie outright, but then accuse others of lying because they don't archive each and every site they visit. Okay, note made. > > You guys attack Jim because he posted an article about OfficeXP > Um, didn't you post that? Yep... and it was a post made directly to Jim, about a conversation I was having with Jim... it was you guys that responded first pointing out to me that it was about OfficeXP and not about WinXP (no shit). I guess you would have had to have been following the private conversation I was having with Jim regarding Microsoft considering subscription basis releases... not strictly WinXP, but the concept in general. I didn't expect any of you to realise that private conversations DO take place. That would have been a bit much to handle, right? > > instead of about WinXP, and ride his ass about it for a week... > Because he kept insisting there was no difference. Again, see above > > who REALLY posted the article? Or perhaps WHY they posted it? Nope... > you > > simply took it as another reason to attack him. Go back in the archive. > After you. No one attacked the poster of the article. Only Jim because he > claimed it backed up his statements. Check the archives... King_Dovregubben posted Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:46 AM Kevin L. Brown posted Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:48 AM (saying anything he ever says he reads is a lie, and posted in a topic that had nothing to do with you) Keith P. Mears posted Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:33 PM Kevin L. Brown posted Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:56 AM ("Did you just call Debbi a secretary?" When he didn't do anything of the sort... he mentioned a secretary at Windup... so you put words in his mouth to try and make him look bad and have someone else go after him *thumbs up*) Shall I go back further, or is the point made that you guys were itching to attack anything and everything he said, regardless of whether it was to you, about you, for you, or concerned you. > > Tara's been here for 3 years... want to start on her next? > Why? Has she started posting lies about the employer of someone on the > list? I don't know... she has said in the past that Microsoft has some problems... she's complained about their Networking system, she's complained about Outlook Express, she's complained about the Blue Screen Of Death, she's complained multiple times about their chat service switching over to Participate.com... Jim talked about flaws and he was attacked... so I guess this means that you'll be after her next. Should I warn Ross that you'll be coming for him too, since he vocally announced his displeasure in Outlook Express a couple months back? Reminds me of that KKK group that you were accusing Jackson of being a part of. Single out those that aren't like you, and run them off or eliminate them altogether. > > You cut down on Jim for not knowing MS terms > No. Yes. Just to point out a few, due to line limits... From: King_Dovregubben Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:19 AM > Jim didn't even know the names of the products he was slamming. That's the quality of the information he was posting. From: King_Dovregubben Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:48 PM > A non-imbecile would know it's mprexe, not MSprexe. And then that individual might simply go to www.microsoft.com and search the knowledge base for mprexe. That person would then, having functional brain cells, install the available patch. > > whether he knew about computers or not. > No. As above > > Why don't you all stop living in what was said in the past, and start > moving > > on with your lives? > We tried. He wouldn't quit posting the same lies over and over after having > been shown they were lies. Umm... how about Keith slipping in (after dropping the topic, and supposedly moving on from attacks on Jim) "If it weren't for the fact that the excerpt you posted was correctly punctuated (I'm tellin' ya, I just LOVE Mail Rules!), I'd be tempted to think Jimbo wrote it himself.". When was that posted? The 26th at 10:05 PM. You consider that moving on? Or "The only public things I remember "hearing" were the damn tabloid headlines, and I trust those about as much as I trust Jimbo's opinions to be based in fact.". The 26th at 8:11 PM. In a post about Mariah Carey possibly being in a form of rehab. Shall I continue? > He even claimed he quit the topic and everyone stopped talking about it. > Then he started up again. Actually, he asked some valid questions about such things as the Kernal that XP will be running on... and even got some respectable answers... then people started to cut him down again. Surprise there. I guess what it comes down to is that Jim got tired of the bullshit insults being thrown at him and decided it was time to go to a more mature discussion area, as many have done before. But I guess on this list, it's alright for a select few to attack whomever they want, but retaliation or defense isn't allowed. Thanks for pointing all this out for me, Kevin. The chance to reminince was wonderful. Much to King and I'm sure your satisfaction, I've about had it with several of the list members and their ritcheous "higher than thou" opinions that Jon first had the honor of sharing with us, so I doubt I'll be posting anything around here for a while. I find that the other Creed list is much kinder and more mature than some of the conversations going on around here. But what more would I expect from a group that was headed off origionally by Jon? So I'll happily slip into the same lurk mode that Shell is currently in, and let you and your klan continue to cut down anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%. Off subject (this isn't directed at you Kevin), I am considering starting a list of some sort based on computer security, offering firewalls, cleaning programs, scanners, tracers, ect (basically everything that I used to have on my protections page earlier in the year, for those that were around back then) and sending out virus warnings and cleaning information. Also, Tara is considering starting up a Creedlist members website, much like the one that Jenn had running for a while, until she vanished. If anyone is interested in these ideas, and possibly assisting, please let me know at my NightStorm@isyourgod.com address and we'll see what we can get started. Please don't send anything to my hotmail address, as I don't check it very often anymore, and only use it for archiving purposes. ¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ http://NightStorm.isyourgod.com/ NightStorm_Draco_@hotmail.com NightStorm_Draco@creedlist.com NightStorm@isyourgod.com To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp