================================================ Subject: Re: NCR: ABSOLUTELY STUNNED From: "Keith P. Mears" To: Date: Tue 28 Aug 2001 15:35:49 -0500 ================================================ I will agree with you to a certain extent Tara, and will "own" the first three insults that you included in your rebuttal. However, the point I was trying to make is this: While I will freely admit that the statements I made were far too personal and insulting, I feel that their is a difference between the insults that I hurled and the one that so offended me. Jim has at no time gone on record as saying that he does ANY form of drug, therefore the statements I made, nasty as they may have been, can be immediately dismissed as the insults they are, the perhaps ill-advised attempts of one lister to get a fellow lister to back off from a position which has been proven to be inaccurate time and time again. However, I HAVE PUBLICLY stated that I 1)am an alcoholic and drug addict (thankfully now in recovery), and 2)have done time. (Being on the record concerning those things, I have made several public attempts to help fellow listers avoid the mistakes I have made, and will continue to do so in the future.) Therefore, Jim's very badly-timed insult (especially considering he placed it in response to a reply (mine) that did NOT insult him) carries with it, IMHO, much more weight than all of my own insults against him combined. To put it another way, while my insults were both personal AND attacks, they were not necessarily personal attacks meant to do harm (to anything other than Jim's "credibility"). Jim's attack was merely meant to hurt, and while you may find this a pretty "nitpicky" difference, I find it to be a pretty significant one. Having said all that, I'd like to add that it was NEVER my intention to cause Jim to leave the list. I have been involved in several heated disputes, both privately and on the list, but at no time have I actively tried to "chase" somebody from the list, or make them feel so uncomfortable that they felt the need to leave. My only interest in "keeping after" Jim as long as I did (and as you yourself pointed out, Tara, I HAD ceased active involvement in the "thread at issue") was to get him to post ACCURATE representations of MS. His (IMO) overly biased OPINIONS were simply TOO inaccurate to not challenge. Do I have a personal stake in MS? No. Do I work there? Again, no. But should that matter? Absolutely not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tara" To: "'Keith Mears'" ; Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:37 AM Subject: Re: NCR: ABSOLUTELY STUNNED > My disclaimer: > I do not dislike any currently active members of this list, so I don't mean > to attack anyone. I would much prefer that this topic were over and we > could all just get along. To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp