================================================ Subject: Re: The Fortress From: "King_Dovregubben" To: Date: Mon 27 Aug 2001 16:02:45 -0700 ================================================ You can use whatever you want. This is no different from Solitaire. It's simply software that's included. No requirements. > -----Original Message----- > From: Creed Discussion List > [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On Behalf Of creed -7m3 - live > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 3:50 PM > To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > Subject: Re: The Fortress > > > On Mon, 2001-08-27 at 00:05, King_Dovregubben wrote: > Complaint: Microsoft is including Passport in WindowsXP. > EPIC, is under the delusion that users have to use > > Passport for registration, an assertion that has been proven false. > > > What can you use with XP instead? Choices? > > > For example: > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/ptech/08/15/privacy.microsoft.reut/index. > > html > > > > The groups, led by the Electronic Privacy Information > Center, contend > > Microsoft intends to track and monitor millions of Internet > users by > > requiring them to reveal a broad range of personal information. > > > > http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2630456,00.html > > > > To register for Passport, you provide your e-mail address, > password, > > secret question, country, state, and ZIP code. Microsoft then sends > > you back an e-mail requesting verification. Once that's > done, you're > > registered for the service. > > > > EPIC says Passport requires users to reveal a broad range of > > information Meanwhile an independent reviewer states the truth. All > > that is required is e-mail, password, secret question, and location. > They are not too demanding requests. > > > A more recent article: > > > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2806642,00.html > > > > "There's nothing I've seen in how Passport collects > information that's > > any different from other Web sites," said Guernsey Research analyst > > Chris LeTocq. > > > > The groups, which include the Electronic Privacy Information Center > > (EPIC) and Junkbusters, faulted Microsoft for collecting, > among other > > things, e-mail addresses during the Passport sign-up process. > > > > But this collecting of e-mail addresses is "commonplace" on > the Web, > > LeTocq said. > > > > *********************** > > > > As you can see, EPIC is a group of loons who can't even get their > > facts straight. Sort of like you. > Thanks!!! Assumptions and supposing. I do know enough to get > out from under MS. While others are under thier thumb. Not a > bad thing. But like a freed wild animal. After you get out > from under MS. It feels like a new found freedom, to me. I > have found a whole lot of information that points to > subscription services. My views about paying a monthly fee > for software are that of not desiring to do so. If you do > like to stay under the MS society. You are welcome to do so. > I believe that you really like the stuff and do give positive > and negative views. Depending upon your experience with the > products. I'll fall behind in knowing thier XP platform and > .net strategies. But will have fun with the Linux system. > > > > > 1. How is this a sign of a big conspiracy? > I am more concerned with the hailstorm. But not to a point of lunacy. > > 2. The FTC is well aware that EPIC is a group of loons. > > 3. WindowsXP already shipped. > On new computers. Great deal for PC buyers. No more ME. > > > > -- > Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest do not > happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct > these defects. > -- Herodotus > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the > Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp