================================================ Subject: Re: The Fortress From: "creed -7m3 - live" To: Date: Mon 27 Aug 2001 18:50:10 -0400 ================================================ On Mon, 2001-08-27 at 00:05, King_Dovregubben wrote: Complaint: Microsoft is including Passport in WindowsXP. EPIC, is under the delusion that users have to use > Passport for registration, an assertion that has been proven false. > What can you use with XP instead? Choices? > For example: > > http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/ptech/08/15/privacy.microsoft.reut/index.html > > The groups, led by the Electronic Privacy Information Center, contend > Microsoft intends to track and monitor millions of Internet users by > requiring them to reveal a broad range of personal information. > > http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2630456,00.html > > To register for Passport, you provide your e-mail address, password, > secret question, country, state, and ZIP code. Microsoft then sends you > back an e-mail requesting verification. Once that's done, you're > registered for the service. > > EPIC says Passport requires users to reveal a broad range of information > Meanwhile an independent reviewer states the truth. All that is required > is e-mail, password, secret question, and location. They are not too demanding requests. > A more recent article: > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2806642,00.html > > "There's nothing I've seen in how Passport collects information that's > any different from other Web sites," said Guernsey Research analyst > Chris LeTocq. > > The groups, which include the Electronic Privacy Information Center > (EPIC) and Junkbusters, faulted Microsoft for collecting, among other > things, e-mail addresses during the Passport sign-up process. > > But this collecting of e-mail addresses is "commonplace" on the Web, > LeTocq said. > > *********************** > > As you can see, EPIC is a group of loons who can't even get their facts > straight. Sort of like you. Thanks!!! Assumptions and supposing. I do know enough to get out from under MS. While others are under thier thumb. Not a bad thing. But like a freed wild animal. After you get out from under MS. It feels like a new found freedom, to me. I have found a whole lot of information that points to subscription services. My views about paying a monthly fee for software are that of not desiring to do so. If you do like to stay under the MS society. You are welcome to do so. I believe that you really like the stuff and do give positive and negative views. Depending upon your experience with the products. I'll fall behind in knowing thier XP platform and .net strategies. But will have fun with the Linux system. > > 1. How is this a sign of a big conspiracy? I am more concerned with the hailstorm. But not to a point of lunacy. > 2. The FTC is well aware that EPIC is a group of loons. > 3. WindowsXP already shipped. On new computers. Great deal for PC buyers. No more ME. > -- Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest do not happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects. -- Herodotus To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp