================================================ Subject: Re: The Fortress From: "King_Dovregubben" To: Date: Sun 26 Aug 2001 21:05:10 -0700 ================================================ EPIC, the privacy group, filed a compaint with the FTC demanding an investigation into whether or not Microsoft may have possibly perhaps done something they don't like because Microsoft is including Passport in WindowsXP. EPIC, is under the delusion that users have to use Passport for registration, an assertion that has been proven false. For example: http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/ptech/08/15/privacy.microsoft.reut/index.ht ml The groups, led by the Electronic Privacy Information Center, contend Microsoft intends to track and monitor millions of Internet users by requiring them to reveal a broad range of personal information. http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2630456,00.html To register for Passport, you provide your e-mail address, password, secret question, country, state, and ZIP code. Microsoft then sends you back an e-mail requesting verification. Once that's done, you're registered for the service. EPIC says Passport requires users to reveal a broad range of information Meanwhile an independent reviewer states the truth. All that is required is e-mail, password, secret question, and location. A more recent article: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2806642,00.html "There's nothing I've seen in how Passport collects information that's any different from other Web sites," said Guernsey Research analyst Chris LeTocq. The groups, which include the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) and Junkbusters, faulted Microsoft for collecting, among other things, e-mail addresses during the Passport sign-up process. But this collecting of e-mail addresses is "commonplace" on the Web, LeTocq said. *********************** As you can see, EPIC is a group of loons who can't even get their facts straight. Sort of like you. 1. How is this a sign of a big conspiracy? 2. The FTC is well aware that EPIC is a group of loons. 3. WindowsXP already shipped. > -----Original Message----- > From: creed -7m3 - live [mailto:creed7m3live@columbus.rr.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:36 PM > To: King_Dovregubben > Cc: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > Subject: Re: The Fortress > > > I didn't even know that there was a problem with the release > date. Nor, did I know that there was a petition. > > I don't really care about XP. But, with all of the > interactions with the listers. I am starting to be extremely > afraid of the software. > > Do you believe that there is a petition? > > Jim > > > On Sun, 2001-08-26 at 22:49, King_Dovregubben wrote: > > You believe that a privacy group is fighting to delay the > Windows XP > > release? > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the > Creed-Discuss list, > > visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > -- > Q: What's the difference between the 1950's and the 1980's? > A: In the 80's, a man walks into a drugstore and states > loudly, "I'd > like some condoms," and then, leaning over the counter, > whispers, > "and some cigarettes." > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp