================================================ Subject: Re: Origins ... From: "King_Dovregubben" To: Date: Sat 25 Aug 2001 00:05:01 -0700 ================================================ Christ. Where to start? 1. Most companies charge for their products. Why shouldn't Microsoft? 2. There is no subscription, only a reworking of the corporate site licensing. This has been proven over and over again. 3. The reason there is so much in the way of discrediting your comments because they are full of shit. Perhaps if you got them from somewhere other than out of your ass, this wouldn't be the case. 4. And finally, YES, it IS your job to back up your claims with something. If you don't, then you can fully expect to have those claims completely destroyed by people who DO back them up with sources. 5. There was no deflection. There was simply a host of people pointing out that you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about. 6. Yes, you really should back off. You are digging yourself a rather deep hole. > -----Original Message----- > From: Creed Discussion List > [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On Behalf Of creed -7m3 - live > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:57 PM > To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > Subject: Re: Origins ... > > > My sources haven't been ripped to shreds. Since the Microsoft > idea for charging for software. On a subscription basis were > correct. Though the XP operating system was not marked as > having a subscription option. > > But, the fact that there is so much in the way of > discrediting my comments about the issue and my overall > credibility are reasons for me to persist with the discussion. > > About looking up the sources. Before I make a post. I don't > think that my job is to be a reporter with disclosed sources > and references. > > Naive or a liar!!!! I hardly think so!!!!!! > > Send me the original post. Since I empty my send mail > occasionally and don't have the "source". > > For you to think that any 12 year old child would think that > the scheme regarding subscriptions and forced upgrades, to > not being legitimate. I hardly think that the case would be > there. Look how much deflection has been given towards saying > it was XP Office. (Different animal, but same > outcome.) > > I'll be quiet about the whole SW issue. But, to reference > personal attacks about things related to my search attempts > or dictionary references. I needed to bring up the related topic. > > Jim > > > On Sat, 2001-08-25 at 02:16, Kevin L. Brown wrote: > > Ill equipped? > > > > Your sources have been ripped to shreds. You've been shown to be > > naive at best and a flat out liar at worst. You post > things that any > > 12 year old who thought things through for 10 seconds would know > > couldn't be the case. > > > > Ill equipped indeed. > > > > > > How about you just be quiet about software for a week? > You've shown > > you can't be bothered to look up sources before posting, so > just don't > > post. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "creed -7m3 - live" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:09 PM > > Subject: Re: Origins ... > > > > > > > The reason that I am starting to feel even more strongly > about the > > > microsoft subscription issue is the way that a lot of rather ill > > > equiped people would like to reduce my credibility to nil. > > > > > > If you think that outdated material is what I have found. That is > > > great!!! ... I just hope that the climate for Microsoft to start > > > charging people a monthly fee for software is pretty much tensed > > > public towards the ability for them to start such a scheme. > > > > > > Don't you think that you could stop this worthless search engine > > > crap!!!! > > > > > > Here is a dictonary definition for Microsoft. > > > Microsoft The new Evil Empire (the old one was IBM). The basic > > > complaints are, as formerly with IBM, that (a) their > system designs > > > are horrible botches, (b) we can't get source to fix them, and (c) > > > they throw their weight around a lot. See also Halloween > Documents. > > > > > > Halloween Documents n. A pair of Microsoft internal strategy > > > memoranda leaked to ESR in late 1998 that confirmed everybody's > > > paranoia about the current Evil Empire. These documents > > > (http://www.opensource.org/halloween/) praised the technical > > > excellence of Linux and outlined a counterstrategy of > attempting to > > > lock in customers by "de-commoditizing" Internet protocols and > > > services. They were extensively cited on the Internet and in the > > > press and proved so embarrassing that Microsoft PR barely said a > > > word in public for six months afterwards. > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2001-08-25 at 01:32, Keith P. Mears wrote: > > > > Wow! You DO know how to do a "Search". Too bad the only thing > > > > you ever seem to come up with is either a dictionary entry or > > > > badly outdated. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "creed -7m3 - live" > > > > To: "Keith P. Mears" > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 12:20 AM > > > > Subject: Origins ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard the phrase from people that were Jewish. But, > I looked > > > > > up the definition Yiddish and came up with the below > definition. > > > > > > > > > > Yiddish Yid"dish, n. G. j"udisch, prop., Jewish, fr. Jude > > > > > Jew. See Jew, Jewish. > > > > > A language used by German and other Jews, being a Middle > > > > > German dialect developed under Hebrew and Slavic influence. > > > > > It is written in Hebrew characters. > > > > > > > > > > For schmuck, I got the below: > > > > > schmuck > > > > > n : someone unpleasantly strange or eccentric > syn: creep, weirdo, > > > > > weirdie, weirdy, spook > > > > > > > > > > No definition regarding the origin.I tried German > translation to > > > > > English. It returned decoration. I tried Russian to > English and > > > > > got schyumuchk. I guess the translator could qualify > the word as > > > > > being Yiddish. > > > > > > > > > > Done... > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss > > > > list, > > visit: > > > > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > > -- > > > Where am I? Who am I? Am I? I > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss > > > list, > > visit: > > > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the > Creed-Discuss list, > > visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > -- > Where am I? Who am I? Am I? I > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the > Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp