================================================ Subject: Re: Safety First... Admission after the info From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Wed 22 Aug 2001 01:26:20 -0400 ================================================ I don't know about the conditions that large corporate agreement contain. I appriciate the insight into the framework for large corporate customers. The retail customers might be advantaged by thier exclusion. Along with the large corporates aided by a subscription framework. I just wish the subject would change to something more that my earlier post and the admission scenerio. Constructive discussions lead to solutions. And I enjoy reading your non-bashing response. Thanks, Jim ----------------------------- King_Dovregubben wrote: > You DO realize that this is simply a replacement of the currently > existing agreements Microsoft has with it's large corporate customers, > right? > The customers that get deep discounts for multi-user licenses and > support. > > This has NOTHING to do with retail customers. > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Creed Discussion List >>[mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On Behalf Of Creed - 7M3 - Live >>Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:10 PM >>To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM >>Subject: Safety First... Admission, after the info >> >> >>It is great for Keith to admit. When he is wrong. However, I >>haven't found any information to indicate me being incorrect. >> >> >>Since the issue seems to be that I will not admit to being >>wrong. Here is another piece to the puzzle. >>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>--------- >> Microsoft, however, is pushing its new subscription model >>Software Assurance (SA) program. The software giant expects >>more than 50 percent of its customers to sign up. Subscribing >>to SA costs 29 percent of the end-user price per year and >>gives subscribers the right to all upgrades of Office. >> >>To be eligible a customer needs to run the current version of >>the product. Only Office XP will be the current version on >>Oct. 1, so the customer first needs to upgrade. Once the cost >>of the four-year SA contract is added onto the cost of the >>software upgrade, users end up paying a premium of 66 >>percent, the NGN calculated. >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>--------- >>I again know that the information regards XP office. But, the >>bits are seeming to indicate that the issues that I posted >>were pretty darn credible. >> >>I read a subscription as regarding to pay as you go. >> >>If predictions are that 50 percent of the customers will sign >>up. Isn't that like saying that the pay up, or off you go >>scenerio that I mentioned in my earlier postings? >> >>The best way to kill an issue is to not keep posting to the >>list that inspires responses. >> >>Basically, if you don't believe it. Fine!!! ... I'm tired of >>the credibility issues. Especially, since the issues >>regarding sheep were discussed. for those that follow the >>subscription scheme. Be aware of what some seem to like to do >>to the poor defenseless sheep. >> >>You can be a pioneer into other operating systems. Make your >>own, if you so choose. My choice is well known. >> >>Sorry if I took the comment as more than it was meant to be. >>The part between two ----- above are excerpts from this link. >> >> > http://windows2000.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://iwsun4.i > nfoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/05/25/010525hnfight.xml > >> >> >>ambelina wrote: >> >> >>>HELL OF A GUY TO ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG!!! >>>LV >>>Amb >>> >>>"Keith P. Mears" wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Thanks Amb. I did notice in the FAQ I posted that the Church has >>>>withdrawn ALL endorsement of polygamy. I regret making my rash >>>>"widely practiced" statement, and I'd like to thank Debbi >>>> >>for calling >> >>>>bullshit and forcing me to fins the facts. >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "ambelina" >>>>To: >>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:56 PM >>>>Subject: to go with Keith's polygamy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I found this at lds.org go to search then confrence talks. Lv >>>>>Amb >>>>>(and by the way I live in Utah and DO NOT practice Polygamy!!!) >>>>>There are very few Poligamists here BUT they are the ones >>>>> >>that give Utah >> >>>>>a bad name!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the >>>>> >>Creed-Discuss list, >> >>>>visit: >>>> >>>> >>>>>http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the >>>> >>Creed-Discuss list, >> >>>>visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp >>>> >>>> >>>To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the >>> >>Creed-Discuss list, >> >>>visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>"Bureaucracy is the enemy of innovation." >>-- Mark Shepherd, former President and CEO of Texas Instruments >> >>To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the >>Creed-Discuss list, visit: >>http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp >> >> > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > -- "Bureaucracy is the enemy of innovation." -- Mark Shepherd, former President and CEO of Texas Instruments To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp