================================================ Subject: Re: Multi-lingual signs... Multilanguages From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Tue 7 Aug 2001 18:13:26 -0400 ================================================ Thanks Scott for the detailed answer. I was wondering about thier desire to seperate. Quebec. Being from Columbus. I should know more about Columbus. I suppose. I believe that both points are right. CC was an Italian Explorer. But he sailed under the support of a Spanish Queen. I should of checked it out. But you are right. CC found some Caribean Island. Around here on every Columbus Day. The Native American population has protest marches. Because of the feeling or actuality of his brutality to the native population. I really don't care if they do away with Columbus Day and put a native American day. I would not get the day off anyway.But would favor the change to Native American day. Gina Kovach wrote: > A handful of points to make: > > 1) I believe Christopher Columbus was Italian, but I'm not sure. > > 2) Back in 8th grade I remember learning about some battle between the > British and Spanish Navies sometime in the 1700's (probably closer to > 1700 than 1800, as by 1800 we were already a country), which was > essentially the "turning point" when it came to who controlled the > settlers here. Britain won the battle, and won control. I don't remember > the name of the battle or anything, but I remember my teacher saying that > if Spain had won we could possibly all be speaking Spanish instead of > English here in the United States. > > 3) America was named for Amerigo Vespucci (spelling???) who I believe was > an Italian explorer. > > --->|Gina|<--- > e-mail me > "Carry on my wayward son, there'll be peace when you are done, lay your > weary head to rest, don't you cry no more..."--Kansas > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:39:18 -0400 > =?iso-8859-1?B?XVxcW11bR317VKdU1q5ddls=?= > writes: > >>***** WARNING - THIS IS LONG AND RAMBLES ***** >> >>I'm not exactly certain of their reasoning behind a separation... >>all I >>remember is the Bloc Quebeqois (spelling is wrong, I know... I never >>bothered to pay attention to it before) getting elected as the >>official >>party of Quebec, and because of that, they had enough seats to be the >>official opposition to the Premier party (Jean Cretien... oddly >>enough, >>originally of Quebec). One of their first orders of business was to >>try and >>put through a vote to declare official separation from Canada, and >>I'm >>guessing through that, separation from the Throne. The final >>count was >>very close... it was like 50.6% against... big uproars, fights, a >>riot or >>two, a lot of pissed off people, and a lot of accusations in >>parliament... >>but before a second vote could be done, the leader to the Bloc got >>the >>flesh-eating disease in his leg, and they had to amputate... after >>that, he, >>and through him, his party, calmed down a lot. >>My guess as to why they wished to separate could lead back to them >>just >>wanting independence from the rest of the country... they were among >>the >>largest provinces in the country, and made up a good 30+% of the >>countries >>population (Ontario bringing up another good chunk... just slightly >>larger), >>and had a strong economy, not having to depend on one single resource >>(Maritimes = fishing, Prairies = farming)... as you said, they >>probably felt >>that the less-fortunate parts of the country were dragging them down >>some >>(at the time of the vote, the fishing in the Maritimes was on >>lockdown, so >>the unemployment rate in Newfoundland and area was about 75%). >>I imagine that they were kinda tired about the whole "dual-language" >>thing, >>too... their provincial language being French, but their national >>language >>having to be English as well as French... but it was odd, cause when >>I was >>there, you would pull into a gas station or something, and hear >>everyone >>talking almost-perfect English, but the moment you walk in and ask a >>question (also in English), they hear your obviously non-Quebec >>accent, and >>switch to French like they never even knew there was another >>language they >>could use (I would love pissing them off by talking to them in >>English for a >>few minutes while thy acted like they didn't understand, then >>suddenly >>switch to perfect French and start talking in that language >>instead... LOL). >>I know that in BC, at least when I was in school, it was a >>requirement of >>Highschool graduation to complete a second language up to the >>Grade10 level, >>and up to Grade 8, French was pretty much mandatory, but I neither >>know what >>the rules are now, or how it ever was in Quebec. All I know for >>sure is >>that about 10 years ago there was a big argument between parliament >>about >>the dual-language roadsigns, and it was decided that Quebec and >>surrounding >>areas would be required to have both English and French, and that is >>about >>the same time that the talk of Independence started. Of course, >>that's also >>when some pretty classic jokes about Quebec started too. >>Off-subject, but still about language... one quick question. I know >>that >>Columbus didn't actually discover America, but a lot of you >>Americans seem >>to credit him for it anyway... and that's all cool... but I have a >>question >>regarding this. Everyone is discussing how English should be >>America's >>national language because that's where the founders apparently >>originated... >>but why not consider one of the Native American languages, or even >>Spanish >>(since Columbus sailed under the name of the Spanish Queen)? >>English wasn't >>the majority language in your country till long after... why now >>must it be >>the "official national and (according to Jackson) only language >>spoken in >>the USA"? Just something that's had me wondering the past few days >>from >>watching all the comments. >> >>¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ >>http://NightStorm.isyourgod.com/ >>NightStorm_Draco_@hotmail.com >>NightStorm_Draco@creedlist.com >>NightStorm@isyourgod.com >>I've seen the wicked fruit of your vine, Destroy the man who lacks a >>strong >>mind >>Human pride sings a vengeful song Inspired by the times you've been >>walked >>on >>My stage is shared by many millions, Who lift their hands up high >>because >>they feel this >>We are one We are strong, The more you hold us down the more we >>press on >>What if you did? What if you lied? What if I avenge? What if eye for >>an eye? >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Creed - 7M3 - Live >>To: >>Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:50 PM >>Subject: Re: Multi-lingual signs... Multilanguages >> >> >> >>>BTW Scott - Since you said that you were in Quebec before. If I >>>understood you correctly. Is the issue of Language a major reason >>> >>that >> >>>Quebec desires it's Status as an independent nation? >>> I realize that they are strong economically and feel burdened by >>>Canadian controls. Plus being suppositioned into supporting other >>> >>areas >> >>>of Canada financially. >>> >>>Jim >>> >>To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss >>list, visit: >>http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp >> > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > -- We're constantly being bombarded by insulting and humiliating music, which people are making for you the way they make those Wonder Bread products. 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