================================================ Subject: Re: Odp: Re: Selling Out. .. Band changes From: "Lee Reed" To: Date: Mon 23 Jul 2001 02:03:05 -0400 ================================================ interesting points...i'm not a big madonna fan, but have to give her credit as far as figuring out what her fans want...i think she's actually been pretty innovative...and i think her constantly changing image is proof of that...and before you all go giving me shit here...as far as my replies about u2...popmart tour, and zooropa were very innovative...and i liked the direction they were taking...why did they not continue on that road, instead of supposedly going back to their roots? Lee ----Original Message Follows---- From: Keith Mears To expand on the "Madonna analogy" (and I can't get too specific, since I'm not a fan of hers), she changes her entire persona with pretty much each new project. When she burst onto the scene, she was "Like A Virgin", wore wedding dresses in her videos, going for the "pristine" look. By the time she was the "Material Girl", that look was passé, and she was playing the "sexpot". "Papa Don't Preach" found a more toned down, almost RESPONSIBLE Madonna. Then there's "Vogue" Madonna, which when viewed along with "Truth or Dare", brings us to "SexNUT" Madonna. And let us not forget "Like A Prayer", which was so controversial it almost could not be aired. My point is that while all her "changes" could be viewed as "selling out", IMO, this is a woman with an ACUTE sense of what her fans want, or more appropriately, what her fans WILL BUY. She changes "looks" (hair-style/color, fashion, SOUND) like most of the rest of us change our clothes, yet she continues to be a driving force in "popular" music. Like her music or not, I think Madonna is an incredibly talented artist, and is no more of a "sell-out" than our beloved Creed. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp