================================================ Subject: Re: NCR: STAIND A SELL-OUT + New 7M3 BB From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Mon 23 Jul 2001 19:38:12 -0400 ================================================ Break the cycle is also my only exposure to Staind. But I don't think that they sold out. I only dislike one song on thier new album and was informed that their earlier style was much tha same. Bands change, sometimes to be more interesting to others. Other times their changes are taken poorly by their previous supporters. In other news: 7M3 has a BB open now on thier website. It is great that the band takes an active part in their BB. The website is http://www.7m3.com the signup for the board is just below the main links. Lee Reed wrote: > while i must admit i didn't know staind before break the cycle, i wouldn't > necessarily call them a sell-out...they've been knocked for this album > being > rather self-absorbed, in that it's primary theme seems to be aaron's > dealings with life, and his background...i find it interesting that he's > able to 'talk' about his life in this manner...but as i said, i'm not > familiar with their previous music, so maybe my opinion doesn't mean > shit...i like the new album... > Lee > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Creed07939@AOL.COM > speaking of sell-outs...i consider Staind a sell-out. Their music has > changed > ever sinvce Dysfuntion. Dysfuntion was such a harder album more like hard > rock. Stanid has gone from being hard..to this slow shit. they are now an > alternative rock band. any so-called hard rock band that has their song > played on STAR 104 along with such gay bands like N'Sync deserve to be > hated. > Staind was good, and they cared about their music...now their just out to > get teeny bopper radio listeners off the air waves. Whatever Staind..do ur > thing. > > Mike > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, > visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, > visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > -- I have sacrificed time, health, and fortune, in the desire to complete these Calculating Engines. I have also declined several offers of great personal advantage to myself. But, notwithstanding the sacrifice of these advantages for the purpose of maturing an engine of almost intellectual power, and after expending from my own private fortune a larger sum than the government of England has spent on that machine, the execution of which it only commenced, I have received neither an acknowledgement of my labors, not even the offer of those honors or rewards which are allowed to fall within the reach of men who devote themselves to purely scientific investigations... If the work upon which I have bestowed so much time and thought were a mere triumph over mechanical difficulties, or simply curious, or if the execution of such engines were of doubtful practicability or utility, some justification might be found for the course which has been taken; but I venture to assert that no mathematician who has a reputation to lose will ever publicly express an opinion that such a machine would be useless if made, and that no man distinguished as a civil engineer will venture to declare the construction of such machinery impracticable... And at a period when the progress of physical science is obstructed by that exhausting intellectual and manual labor, indispensable for its advancement, which it is the object of the Analytical Engine to relieve, I think the application of machinery in aid of the most complicated and abtruse calculations can no longer be deemed unworthy of the attention of the country. In fact, there is no reason why mental as well as bodily labor should not be economized by the aid of machinery. -- Charles Babbage, "The Life of a Philosopher" To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp