================================================ Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view From: "Ross Johnson" To: Date: Sat 7 Jul 2001 11:48:25 +0100 ================================================ perhaps because it ain't perceived as being 'cool'!? 2 weeks ago(perhaps more), I put the most recent Jars of Clay on te stereo at work. This girl, who shall remain nameless(!), came up to me asked who it was etc. stood there talking for a bit and when i mentioned they were in the 'christian rock' genre, she went like 'OH' and ran off! lol but to say christian don't get airplay in the states is not totally correct. when i was in Florida, they had this christian station which was pretty cool. although they(christian acts) probably don't get much airplay on the top 40 stations. there's a band called Grace or Point of Grace or something like that, who've made a serious dent on the billboard top 100 on numerous occassions. other than that, no i can't think of anymore either. --- Keith Mears wrote: > Very good points Scott, and I for one agree with > you. To expand just a > little (and I mean this not as a slam, just > commentary), you mentioned some > of the biggest names in rock over the last decade or > more, but can you (or > any of the rest of us) name two or three of the > biggest selling Christian > acts? I can come up with Stryper and Jars of Clay, > but I have no clue where > they would rank in terms of sales. My point is > simply that Christian acts > simply don't receive the attention (i.e., AIRPLAY) > that the "mainstream" > (pop, rock, r&b, country, etc.) acts do. Anyone > else have thoughts on this? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" > > To: > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view > > > > Correction... the Religion doesn't make tons of > bucks... the Evangelist > > makes tons of bucks. And look how far Metallica > went... and (flashback to > > the 80's) Megadeth. Or Bon Jovi. Or U2. None of > those bands sing about > > religion... the occasional reference to God (some > good, some bad... goes > > either way)... but they are all some of the > biggest bands of their era, > and > > they did it without singing about Religion. It's > not actually Religion > that > > makes a song a seller... it's the music... the > writing style... and the > > fanbase. True that this isn't a solid case, > seeing as how Marilyn Manson > is > > doing so well... but the majority of top bands out > there aren't singing > > about religion... most of their top songs don't > even have reference to any > > form of God. Just my thoughts... > > > > ¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ > > http://NightStorm.isyourgod.com/ > > NightStorm_Draco_@hotmail.com > > NightStorm_Draco@creedlist.com > > NightStorm@isyourgod.com > > I've seen the wicked fruit of your vine, Destroy > the man who lacks a > strong > > mind > > Human pride sings a vengeful song Inspired by the > times you've been walked > > on > > My stage is shared by many millions, Who lift > their hands up high because > > they feel this > > We are one We are strong, The more you hold us > down the more we press on > > What if you did? What if you lied? What if I > avenge? What if eye for an > eye? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: King Dovregubben > > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 4:34 PM > > Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view > > > > > > > Hmmm... Let me see here. > > > > > > You want to come up with a song that will make > tons of bucks. > > > Religion makes tons of bucks. > > > > > > Why wouldn't you incorporate religion into your > songs? > > > > > > > > > >From: Mad4creedsmbs@aol.com > > > >To: king_dovregubben@hotmail.com, > CREED-DISCUSS@winduplist.com > > > >Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view > > > >Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 07:41:43 EDT > > > > > > > >So....they both make money...it doesn't mean > one should influence the > > > >other. > > > > > > > >-Mad > > > > > > > >In a message dated 7/5/01 7:10:11 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > > > >king_dovregubben@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > ><< No. Popular songs are written to make money. > > > > > > > > In this country, nothing brings in more money > than religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Mad4creedsmbs@AOL.COM > > > > >Reply-To: Mad4creedsmbs@AOL.COM > > > > >To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > > > > >Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view > > > > >Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 07:28:02 EDT > > > > > > > > > >Mostly because popular songs are written for > entertainment and not > for > > > >any > > > > >religious intent. But also because ones > religious beliefs should > have > > a > > > > >strong enough foundation that a song should > not influence it one way > > or > > > > >another. > > > > > > > > > >-Mad > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the > Creed-Discuss list, > visit: > > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the > Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp