================================================ Subject: Why aren't they recognized Re..ous bands From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Sun 8 Jul 2001 00:34:11 -0400 ================================================ I think that the reason that a lot of the Christian Rock bands don't get a larger audience is the fact that they are played on stations with distracting to me (and probably others) RAP, HIP-HOP, etc blended Christian Rock stations. I used to listen to a Christian Rock station out here because the music was pretty good. But I stopped listening to the station because of all of the RAP and HIP-Hop music in the blend. Don't feel too offensive about the comment. Since the used to be Rock stations did the same thing with expanding their airplay of thier music with RAP/Metal and the like. I only heard of a lot of bands lately through email of listers and links to thier website. I think the radio stations are settling down a bit to the better bands and not playing as much sensless jingling and babbling nonsense as they have in the past year. Since I can tollerate listening to the radio stations for longer durations before they break into the jibberish crappy nonsense. Tool, Staind and 7M3's new releases being played often now might of been the major change and their was only rubbish from musicians in the past year. But I suspect it was some scheme set out by the recording industries and radio outlets. Back to the Christian bands. If they had purer music formats. I think I'd listen to the bands more and maybe buy thier albums. And I'm not a Christian. I think the only hope for Christian bands to get played on the regular outlets would be to not label thierselves as such. Just as other bands have done. If Creed was a Christian band. (I believe they might be). Jim PS - I'm not as open to musical "diversity" as others. Since I have to feel the music. But if lesser music (IMO) is the trend of others. I respect it. But it is not being open minded (IMO). It is settling for less in quality or energy. (IMO) Keith Mears wrote: > Very good points Scott, and I for one agree with you. To expand just a > little (and I mean this not as a slam, just commentary), you mentioned some > of the biggest names in rock over the last decade or more, but can you (or > any of the rest of us) name two or three of the biggest selling Christian > acts? I can come up with Stryper and Jars of Clay, but I have no clue where > they would rank in terms of sales. My point is simply that Christian acts > simply don't receive the attention (i.e., AIRPLAY) that the "mainstream" > (pop, rock, r&b, country, etc.) acts do. Anyone else have thoughts on this? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view > > > >>Correction... the Religion doesn't make tons of bucks... the Evangelist >>makes tons of bucks. And look how far Metallica went... and (flashback to >>the 80's) Megadeth. Or Bon Jovi. Or U2. None of those bands sing about >>religion... the occasional reference to God (some good, some bad... goes >>either way)... but they are all some of the biggest bands of their era, >> > and > >>they did it without singing about Religion. It's not actually Religion >> > that > >>makes a song a seller... it's the music... the writing style... and the >>fanbase. True that this isn't a solid case, seeing as how Marilyn Manson >> > is > >>doing so well... but the majority of top bands out there aren't singing >>about religion... most of their top songs don't even have reference to any >>form of God. Just my thoughts... >> >>¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ >>http://NightStorm.isyourgod.com/ >>NightStorm_Draco_@hotmail.com >>NightStorm_Draco@creedlist.com >>NightStorm@isyourgod.com >>I've seen the wicked fruit of your vine, Destroy the man who lacks a >> > strong > >>mind >>Human pride sings a vengeful song Inspired by the times you've been walked >>on >>My stage is shared by many millions, Who lift their hands up high because >>they feel this >>We are one We are strong, The more you hold us down the more we press on >>What if you did? What if you lied? What if I avenge? What if eye for an >> > eye? > >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: King Dovregubben >>To: >>Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 4:34 PM >>Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view >> >> >> >>>Hmmm... Let me see here. >>> >>>You want to come up with a song that will make tons of bucks. >>>Religion makes tons of bucks. >>> >>>Why wouldn't you incorporate religion into your songs? >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Mad4creedsmbs@aol.com >>>>To: king_dovregubben@hotmail.com, CREED-DISCUSS@winduplist.com >>>>Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view >>>>Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 07:41:43 EDT >>>> >>>>So....they both make money...it doesn't mean one should influence the >>>>other. >>>> >>>>-Mad >>>> >>>>In a message dated 7/5/01 7:10:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>king_dovregubben@hotmail.com writes: >>>> >>>><< No. Popular songs are written to make money. >>>> >>>> In this country, nothing brings in more money than religion. >>>> >>>> >>>> >From: Mad4creedsmbs@AOL.COM >>>> >Reply-To: Mad4creedsmbs@AOL.COM >>>> >To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM >>>> >Subject: Re: shaping religous point of view >>>> >Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 07:28:02 EDT >>>> > >>>> >Mostly because popular songs are written for entertainment and not >>>> > for > >>>>any >>>> >religious intent. But also because ones religious beliefs should >>>> > have > >>a >> >>>> >strong enough foundation that a song should not influence it one way >>>> >>or >> >>>> >another. >>>> > >>>> >-Mad >>>> >>To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, >> > visit: > >>http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp >> >> >> >> > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > -- Answers to Last Fortune's Questions: (1) None. (Moses didn't have an ark). (2) Your mother, by the pigeonhole principle. (3) I don't know. (4) Who cares? (5) 6 (or maybe 4, or else 3). Mr. Alfred J. Duncan of Podunk, Montana, submitted an interesting solution to Problem 5. (6) There is an interesting solution to this problem on page 1029 of my book, which you can pick up for $23.95 at finer bookstores and bathroom supply outlets (or 99 cents at the table in front of Papyrus Books). 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