================================================ Subject: Re: This is absurd! From: "Debbi R" To: Date: Wed 27 Jun 2001 19:36:00 -0700 ================================================ I'd hardly call this list a war zone. Some mildly amusing entertainment, maybe. But not even close to a war zone. Certainly not with the "i'm taking my ball and going home" attitude that people have here. let's see... i'm reading through the archives. in the past few weeks, we've had: * a short thread of the upcoming album release date - not much to really talk about there except start thrashing on the receptionist at wind-up for insisting that her incorrect information is true. * post after post ad nauseum about the meaning of life and virtual reality. That one, although I was only lurking, was actually quite interesting most of the time. * I tried to get a discussion going about intellectual property rights as it relates to music ala napster and got my ass kicked for a) being a newbie that simply doesn't understand what this list is REALLY about, 2) a hypocrit for wanting to discuss something that i'm admittedly involved in, 3) abusing the list privileges, 4) flooding the list with worthless posts and jeopardizing the daily limit, and countless other things that i care not to repeat online. * a brief tour update for some popular bands - this thread lasted less than 2 days * Why marilyn manson sucks or doesn't suck, depending on your view - (I might add that this one was going fine and was worth reading until someone got accused of getting *gasp* personal, whereupon it immediately began imploding) * someone circulating the rumor that he *thinks* he *might* have heard *somewhere* that scotts *might* be in rehab for cocaine addiction. That was an interesting one -- listening to everyone's speculation on the most ambivelant rumor i've ever seen. * about 8947574839 forwarded jokes * scott's semi-regular virus updates (generally timed after the usual 938574739 virus hoax postings) * the usual 4957577636 requests for help unsubscribing It's still escaped me - where the list is of what discussion is allowed and what isn't. As I mentioned last week (or maybe not... i kept several mails in my drafts folder and never sent them), the "what's allowed" list tends to change depending on the day, the subject matter, who's involved and any combination of those things. If we get our ass kicked for being personal, we never get to know one another. That doesn't make for very interesting conversation. There's only so many concert reviews and upcoming show reports to go around. If we do get into interesting and spirited discussions, someone with thin skin inevitably dives in with accusations of personal slander and hijacks the entire thread despite attempts to get it back on track. What's the answer? Who knows. I'm planning to just wait it out. Maybe when everyone that is uncomfortable leaves, it will only leave those that are comfortable in this type of social environment. If not, i'll just continue to do what i do. DebbiR -----Original Message----- From: Creed Discussion List [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On Behalf Of Mad4creedsmbs@AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:23 PM To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM Subject: This is absurd! OK, guys...really. This is absurd! What the heck are you all talking/fighting about???? Have any of you actually LISTENED to a Creed song before?? Read the lyrics??? What would Scott, Mark, Scott and Brian think if they were to happen onto the List...as they have on many occasions? Their songs talk of peace and tranquility, of people getting along...how horrified would they be to find that a List which bears their name, is sponsored by their record label, and is supposed to be for their promotion, has become a war zone??? To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp