================================================ Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to all the real listers" From: "Ross Johnson" To: Date: Wed 20 Jun 2001 23:19:48 +0100 ================================================ got 2 words on this topic: fucking bollocks. Mr Mungo, bought a new pen today --- Martin Creed wrote: > creed is not new age sprituality. its religious, > like god and jesus > religious. they are christians through and through. > > > >From: "Tara" > >Reply-To: "Tara" > >To: "Martin Creed" , > > > >Subject: Re: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later > to all the real > >listers" > >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:07:45 -0400 > > > >I would just like to point out that there's a > difference between "religion" > >and "spirituality". > > > >Tara > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Martin Creed > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:08 PM > >Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to all > the real listers" > > > > > > > creed and religion go hand in hand. look at the > music they made, cant > >argue > > > it wasnt religious. heck, i started really > reading my bible cuz of > >creed. > > > some of thier later stuff was pretty dark, but > overall id say they are > >just > > > a bunch of down home boys. > > > > > > > > > >From: Tara > > > >Reply-To: Tara > > > >To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > > > >Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to > all the real listers" > > > >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:50:54 -0400 > > > > > > > >*sigh* > > > >I think this makes the four thousand three > hundred and sixty-third > > > >"disagreement" I've seen on this list... Jon, > seriously, this topic has > > > >been > > > >beaten to death several times in the past. > > > >"My religion is better than your religion" > > > >"no it's not" > > > >"Yes it is! And you're going to hell unless you > change your mind, > >because > > > >my > > > >beliefs are the only RIGHT beliefs" > > > >And so on... > > > >Let me say first that I don't think old-timers > have more say than > > > >newbies... > > > >however, in cases like this, the people who've > been on the list a while > > > >know > > > >how this whole thing goes. I myself have seen > almost the exact same > > > >argument more times than I care to remember. > I've seen several > >old-timers > > > >leave, and it's usually because the "newbies" > insist that just because > > > >they've joined the list, things are going to go > THEIR way, and they'll > > > >behave however they want on the list. It's > easier to just unsubscribe > >than > > > >it is to argue with an unarmed person. > > > >I am also going to suggest, very nicely, that > this would be a wonderful > > > >time > > > >to drop the entire discussion, and find > something less inflamatory to > > > >discuss. You shouldn't go around telling > people they're wrong because > >they > > > >have different beliefs than you, and attempting > to force said beliefs > >upon > > > >others. There are many different religious > ideas among the members of > >this > > > >list, and 90% of the time, it's not a > problem... we just agree to > >disagree. > > > >As for your discussion with NightStorm... well, > when you start hassling > > > >someone who's been around a while, you may find > out that their friends > >will > > > >support them, even when they have different > opinions. I have friends > >with > > > >very different opinions than my own, who will > still support me if > >someone > > > >tells me my OPINIONS are wrong... because they > believe in each person's > > > >right to have their own opinions without being > bashed for them. In a > >lot > > > >of > > > >things, such as religion, there's really no way > to tell what's > >absolutely > > > >true or not... religion is a matter of faith... > I don't think people > >with > > > >different views than my own are wrong, their > views just don't agree > >with > >my > > > >own. So please don't tell other people that > they're wrong just because > > > >they > > > >disagree with you. There are as many different > opinions as there are > > > >people > > > >in the world. > > > >Enough of that... I'm starting to ramble yet > again... lol > > > >Tara > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for > the Creed-Discuss list, > > > >visit: > > > >http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for > the Creed-Discuss list, > >visit: > > > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the > Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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