================================================ Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to all the real listers" From: "Martin Creed" To: Date: Tue 19 Jun 2001 23:08:32 -0000 ================================================ creed and religion go hand in hand. look at the music they made, cant argue it wasnt religious. heck, i started really reading my bible cuz of creed. some of thier later stuff was pretty dark, but overall id say they are just a bunch of down home boys. >From: Tara >Reply-To: Tara >To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM >Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to all the real listers" >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:50:54 -0400 > >*sigh* >I think this makes the four thousand three hundred and sixty-third >"disagreement" I've seen on this list... Jon, seriously, this topic has >been >beaten to death several times in the past. >"My religion is better than your religion" >"no it's not" >"Yes it is! And you're going to hell unless you change your mind, because >my >beliefs are the only RIGHT beliefs" >And so on... >Let me say first that I don't think old-timers have more say than >newbies... >however, in cases like this, the people who've been on the list a while >know >how this whole thing goes. I myself have seen almost the exact same >argument more times than I care to remember. I've seen several old-timers >leave, and it's usually because the "newbies" insist that just because >they've joined the list, things are going to go THEIR way, and they'll >behave however they want on the list. It's easier to just unsubscribe than >it is to argue with an unarmed person. >I am also going to suggest, very nicely, that this would be a wonderful >time >to drop the entire discussion, and find something less inflamatory to >discuss. You shouldn't go around telling people they're wrong because they >have different beliefs than you, and attempting to force said beliefs upon >others. There are many different religious ideas among the members of this >list, and 90% of the time, it's not a problem... we just agree to disagree. >As for your discussion with NightStorm... well, when you start hassling >someone who's been around a while, you may find out that their friends will >support them, even when they have different opinions. I have friends with >very different opinions than my own, who will still support me if someone >tells me my OPINIONS are wrong... because they believe in each person's >right to have their own opinions without being bashed for them. In a lot >of >things, such as religion, there's really no way to tell what's absolutely >true or not... religion is a matter of faith... I don't think people with >different views than my own are wrong, their views just don't agree with my >own. So please don't tell other people that they're wrong just because >they >disagree with you. There are as many different opinions as there are >people >in the world. >Enough of that... I'm starting to ramble yet again... lol >Tara > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, >visit: >http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp