================================================ Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to all the real listers" From: "Kevin L. Brown" To: Date: Tue 19 Jun 2001 16:56:13 -0700 ================================================ Maybe to the indecisive. Creed is religious like Kansas was religious. They may not be writing Christian songs, but they are Christians writing songs. Only a small difference. Anyone hear John Elefante's album Defying Gravity? One of the best rock albums of all time. It's also a Christian album. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tara" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to all the real listers" > I would just like to point out that there's a difference between "religion" > and "spirituality". > > Tara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martin Creed > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to all the real listers" > > > > creed and religion go hand in hand. look at the music they made, cant > argue > > it wasnt religious. heck, i started really reading my bible cuz of creed. > > some of thier later stuff was pretty dark, but overall id say they are > just > > a bunch of down home boys. > > > > > > >From: Tara > > >Reply-To: Tara > > >To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > > >Subject: Re: Perhaps this will be a "Later to all the real listers" > > >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:50:54 -0400 > > > > > >*sigh* > > >I think this makes the four thousand three hundred and sixty-third > > >"disagreement" I've seen on this list... Jon, seriously, this topic has > > >been > > >beaten to death several times in the past. > > >"My religion is better than your religion" > > >"no it's not" > > >"Yes it is! And you're going to hell unless you change your mind, because > > >my > > >beliefs are the only RIGHT beliefs" > > >And so on... > > >Let me say first that I don't think old-timers have more say than > > >newbies... > > >however, in cases like this, the people who've been on the list a while > > >know > > >how this whole thing goes. I myself have seen almost the exact same > > >argument more times than I care to remember. I've seen several > old-timers > > >leave, and it's usually because the "newbies" insist that just because > > >they've joined the list, things are going to go THEIR way, and they'll > > >behave however they want on the list. It's easier to just unsubscribe > than > > >it is to argue with an unarmed person. > > >I am also going to suggest, very nicely, that this would be a wonderful > > >time > > >to drop the entire discussion, and find something less inflamatory to > > >discuss. You shouldn't go around telling people they're wrong because > they > > >have different beliefs than you, and attempting to force said beliefs > upon > > >others. There are many different religious ideas among the members of > this > > >list, and 90% of the time, it's not a problem... we just agree to > disagree. > > >As for your discussion with NightStorm... well, when you start hassling > > >someone who's been around a while, you may find out that their friends > will > > >support them, even when they have different opinions. I have friends > with > > >very different opinions than my own, who will still support me if someone > > >tells me my OPINIONS are wrong... because they believe in each person's > > >right to have their own opinions without being bashed for them. In a lot > > >of > > >things, such as religion, there's really no way to tell what's absolutely > > >true or not... religion is a matter of faith... I don't think people with > > >different views than my own are wrong, their views just don't agree with > my > > >own. So please don't tell other people that they're wrong just because > > >they > > >disagree with you. There are as many different opinions as there are > > >people > > >in the world. > > >Enough of that... I'm starting to ramble yet again... lol > > >Tara > > > > > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, > > >visit: > > >http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, > visit: > > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp