================================================ Subject: Re: NCR - A great way for bands to give fans incentives to buy instead of download music From: "Keith Mears" To: Date: Mon 18 Jun 2001 22:24:50 -0500 ================================================ I absolutely could not have said it better myself! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ "And I don't want the world to see me, 'cause I don't think that they'd understand." - Googoo Dolls "End of passion play, crumbling away/I'm your source of self-destruction." - Metallica "Welcome my son/Welcome to the machine." - Pink Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi R" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 7:03 PM Subject: Re: NCR - A great way for bands to give fans incentives to buy instead of download music > Well, you're absolutely right that the record companies perform a > valuable service to the artists in terms of marketing and production. > And that's exactly why most artists don't own the rights to their own > music. > > The original topic, if you remember, was whether it's ok to steal music > from WHOEVER owns the rights to the music. And I'll still argue that > it's not appropriate. You don't seem to have weighed in on the > original discussion but this red herring is a great deflection. Are you > arguing that because they're rich and can get laid whenever they want > it's ok to take their music and not pay for it (assuming they have > enough clout to negotiate the rights to their music in their contract)? > Or in the case of the majority of artists, who relinquish rights to the > record companies, is it ok for them to have their property used without > payment? > > DebbiR > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Creed Discussion List [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On > Behalf Of Kevin L. Brown > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:31 PM > To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > Subject: Re: NCR - A great way for bands to give fans incentives to buy > instead of download music > > > How does it not make sense? Software writers don't own the product of > their labor. The company that paid for the computer, software, office > space, etc, etc own the rights to what their employees produce. > > If musicians could produce everything themselves and make money, they > would. > > They can't. They need help. And in return for that help, they give up > rights to the product they're producing. > > They get rich. They have thousands of screaming adolescent girls > offering themselves at every tour stop. They get to take their families > around the country with them as they tour. I'm having a hard time > feeling sorry for them. > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp