================================================ Subject: Re: NCR - A great way for bands to give fans incentives to buy instead of download music From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Mon 18 Jun 2001 19:03:08 -0400 ================================================ To sum it up. The record companies threatened to sue the Offspring for giving thier music away. But held out to just the one MP3. Because the lawsuit would of been a real pain in the butt. Both financially and timewise. On the other side. Metallica was being portrayed as a greedy band that would prosecute people for listening to thier music. So they were seen as a band not even worth the time to explore thier music. Sort of like the Offsprings stance on not making the album available for download directly. I never used Napster, so I really don't know how big of an impact that the availability of music to download was. I just thought it was "us" against "them". Though I wasn't partaking of the dowloading of whole albums. I download ISO images of operating systems. But never downloaded an ISO image of any music artist. If people were downloading complete albums. Was it one big MP3? I know that their is a huge difference between mp3 files and radio broadcasts. Since I realize the dynamic range and quality of sound is not on the FM system or cassette capablities. So what is wrong with quality mp3? Especially if it doesn't cost. Quality without cost is the primary advantage to mp3's. Too bad businesses can't find out how to do the same. Yep, I knew that, Jim ----------------------- Debbi R wrote: > I've never seen any indication that anyone in the business has a problem > with " ". I know that in the record stores here you can listen to any > cd you want at one of their "listening stations". It's a "try before > you buy" concept. Certainly then, the industry doesn't have a problem > with it. I don't think I've ever heard an objection to someone giving a > copy of a song or two to a friend or a couple of friends to try out. > > I know that the wet spot in front of me is where the dead horse has been > beaten completely into the ground, but the crux of the issue is the fact > that the internet (and sharing sites in particular) make high-quality > digital music available to a huge number of people. This is music that > in many cases hasn't been released for distribution at all and in other > cases has been released for distribution through specific channels and > isn't licensed for the purpose of Internet distribution. > > But you knew that. > > DebbiR > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Creed Discussion List [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On > Behalf Of Creed - 7M3 - Live > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:19 PM > To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > Subject: Re: NCR - A great way for bands to give fans incentives to buy > instead of download music > > > She might take it as I did. I knew that their concerts sold out. That > there album sales still seemed good. But if I just so happened to share > a song with a friend that did't know what I was talking about.So I sent > them an mp3. They would like to see me prosecuted and imprisoned. I > thought what the heck. I won't even listen to your albums and sell the > ones that I already have. So I don't have to worry about being > imprisoned for "dropping the living standard" of someone that is far > richer than me.I thought shear greed, on Metellica's part. I don't know > what their new stuff will be like. But I'd like to hear it first. Before > I went out and bought it.I don't listen to the radio much. So hopefully > they will reduce thier album prices to demonstrate thier "good will" to > the fans.Plus have some sort of samples of thier music online. Either > that or come out with a revolutionary album that can overcome Larrs > perception of not caring about the listeners and supporters. > > Keith Mears wrote: > > >> *Personally, Nikki, I'm not offended by this perspective, I just don't > > >> understand it. Does the fact that a band (Metallica specifically, but > > >> ANY band that feels as they do would suffice) doesn't want people >> stealing THEIR music mean it's not good music anymore? And why is it >> that they're "going after" their fans when they try to stop them from >> stealing their music? Wouldn't you want to stop someone who broke >> into your house and stole your TV? Like I said, I'm not offended, I >> just don't understand.* -- Complex system: One with real problems and imaginary profits. To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp