================================================ Subject: Knowledge is Accumulative... Copyrights are restrictive From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Sun 17 Jun 2001 20:39:17 -0400 ================================================ I'm going to come out and take sides on the copyright issue and copying or adding to another's ideas. First off, I am a copyleftist. Since knowledge is accumulative. It should be shared. Without undue restrictions. I strongly feel that way after the stance that the record companies and software vendors have made to limit availability of programs and the like. I still buy albums from the store. Since I can afford it. But haven't bought an MS program since I bought an upgrade for Windows 95 from windows 3.1 and an Office upgrade that did the same thing. Changing into the 32 bit computer systems. Of course I have bought computers with different software pre-installed and some of it was part of the bundle. Anyway, I'm now into the Linux operating system. Where most of the software is free versions of something that is available on other systems as leased from some corporate provider. Where it is illegal to make improvements in the less than perfect operating system. Anyway, I can do almost anything I need to in the Linux system. Burn CDR's Surf the internet, make or view documents that are in a proprietary software environment. So Windows is just a thing of the past to me. Just like the record companies overinflating the prices of the CD's in the stores. I buy less albums than before. It has to at least have a few songs that I like. Mostly heard over the Internet. Before I would put down the money on the CD. But if the prices were more rational. I'm sure that I'd buy more music. In long, what I'm trying to get across is that the music monopoly industries, the software providor (Singular M$) have got to wake up to the changes. Along with the oil industries and thier monopolies. In world unification, there are different perspectives to what is right. The Multinationals have more diverse hosts to parasite off of and should realize that thier greed will be over-ridden and stifled by the world that they try to leach off of.You cannot expect all countries to uphold restrictive practices. Especially if there is strong reason to believe that the other is being over gluttonous. About the gas prices being highly overcharged. I'd feel more justified to drive off from a pump. When I knew that the price didn't reflect a reasonable profit for the provider. But, I just foul mouth the oil companies and direct my hatred to thier spontanoiusly combusting. Thogh I haven't heard of any reports of such a greedy being combusting. My demands and desires still go out to them just the same. JC Debbi R wrote: > Please pardon me. I was under the impression this was a discussion > list. It's interesting that a 1 day discussion on Napster gets prompted > for an offline conversation yet discussions weeks old pertaining to > philosophy or virtual reality are acceptable. Is this list really > intolerant to dissention? If so, I will need to consider my > subscription carefully. > > > > I was deliberately keeping this discussion online because many people > follow the discussions without necessarily weighing in on them. (As I'm > finding out from people who are talking to me offline) And this is a > very important issue, not just for us as consumers of music, but for us > as fans. More globally, this is important because the issue of > intellectual property rights is bearing down on our country with brute > force and it needs to be reckoned with. > > > I respectfully remind those that don't wish to view a particular thread > that filtering options (among others) are available to them. I'll try > to keep my remarks pertinent to the subject being discussed. > > > DebbiR -- The smiling Spring comes in rejoicing, And surly Winter grimly flies. Now crystal clear are the falling waters, And bonnie blue are the sunny skies. Fresh o'er the mountains breaks forth the morning, The ev'ning gilds the oceans's swell: All creatures joy in the sun's returning, And I rejoice in my bonnie Bell. The flowery Spring leads sunny Summer, The yellow Autumn presses near; Then in his turn come gloomy Winter, Till smiling Spring again appear. Thus seasons dancing, life advancing, Old Time and Nature their changes tell; But never ranging, still unchanging, I adore my bonnie Bell. -- Robert Burns, "My Bonnie Bell" To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp