================================================ Subject: Re: NCR - A great way for bands to give fans incentives to buy instead of download music From: "Debbi R" To: Date: Sat 16 Jun 2001 21:34:13 -0700 ================================================ Well, that's simply not true that it's not necessarily cheating the band. If the band doesn't want music from a certain show released, why should it be ok for someone to do just that? It's one thing if you smuggle in a mini recorder, transfer it to cassette and share it with a few friends, but the internet has changed all of that. This is one of the reasons that I try to be TOTALLY sure I know the band's position before I engage in tape trading any of their music. DebbiR -- who freely admits that her theories fall way short when it comes to the rights of record companies and ASCAP - she simply doesn't like them and doesn't have a problem cheating them. -----Original Message----- From: Creed Discussion List [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM] On Behalf Of Creed - 7M3 - Live Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:16 PM To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM Subject: Re: NCR - A great way for bands to give fans incentives to buy instead of download music I used to be in the mindset that to get unreleased or bootlegged songs was cheating the band. But then found out that it was pretty decent to hear different bootlegged songs from a band. As long as the band did not have to take time out to do the song. Then they weren't cheated out of anything. Since they were probably doing a show and getting money for it anyway. Plus, they probably got more royalties from the person with the DAT recorder, than they get from selling a single copy of an album. I heard that bands get about 2 dollars off of each album in royalties. So a four piece band would probably get 50 cents a piece from an album. I don't know if the producer of the album gets royalties out of the same two dollars or if they get a seperate royalty. Anyway, if this all is true. Then the band makes more from touring and the album is just a way to get people exposed to thier music. The real money is from touring. So a replica of a bought album would cheat the mega record companies out of about 10 dollars a shot. But would of brought a person to see them in concert. Where they really make the money. I look at active resistance of music sharing by bands as a sign to me that they are taking advantage of us. Since the albums are pretty much all profit for a record company and does not reflect the "Modest profit" from a service/product. I was hoping that the prices of CD's dropped to stop the need for people not to need to burn a CD. Since shelling out 9 bucks. Instead of the 15 dollars that a lot of albums sell for. I don't even bother with Metallica after the napster controversy. Though I still have the CD. To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp