================================================ Subject: Re: Soul? -- awareness after material world From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Mon 28 May 2001 17:24:06 -0400 ================================================ Part 1: I agree with you about the soul being emotional, as well as the aware of thier existence idea. But I guess the soul is what happens to all of your energy, organized thoughts and the emotional stance that you interact with after your material existence. Like I supposed before, I hope that I'm just not "unplugged" like a computer. Once I pass onto whatever happens after this life. Visiting the places of a lot of buried predecessors this holiday. I tried to "see" what, if anythng. you could feel from those that have passed on. Of course, I didn't concentrate on anything. Since I don't know how or what the connection would be. I kind of just relaxed and opened up to a relaxed state. What I found was that I could imagine or "sense" many emotional feelings sort of blowing by like the wind. I decided to leave it as an imaginative thing. Since I was set out with the idea of just relaxing and considering the possibilities. About the animal thing. I would not count them out to having a soul yet. Later, Jim fmn wrote: > Hey all! Hey Jim! > > < upon the reflection factor.>> > > yeah, that comes even closer to what I personally consider a soul, > too.. and I guess, it's even more the emotional bit to soul than the > ratio one - and above all, let's not forget the spiritual aspect here > (however you may relate to spirituality). Coming back to the > definitions (hehe.. there _are_ just too many words to define in this > world, aren't there? ;-) > > "soul = spiritual or immaterial part of a person, often regarded as > immortal" yeah, I forgot to mention the immortal-aspect the last > time.. and the immaterial one (I mean, yeah, we think with our > material brains but where can you find the soul, speaking in material > terms i.e.? I guess you could say it's the whole of our material > processes that creates a soul - then raised to a higher level since it > "feeds" on information gathered by all of our senses, emotions and > thoughts..) > > a thought that crossed my mind just now: if someone's [like for > instance our dear friend Jackson's ;-) ] definition of reality is > based on the ability of perception with our 5 basic senses, then would > such a person consider a soul real? ok. I can also put it in the more > direct way: what do you think of that idea Jackson? (I know I'm > probably being a bit annoying at the moment but I'm just curious what > your response would be) > > Coming back to the animals. I've got nothing against them, really! But > I just don't see how they could possibly have a soul - i.e. according > to my definition of a soul which implies a certain degree of > self-consciousness. Plus, I don't think that animals are aware of the > deeper meaning of life and so on (-so the thinking part again, i.e. > insight.. and yeah, I know Jackson - I took this word from you, but ya > didn't copyright it.. hehe ;-).......................... > > to be continued > -- It's not Camelot, but it's not Cleveland, either. -- Kevin White, Mayor of Boston To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp