Hi Jackson
thanks for your explaination on the limit of lines,
this time no trilogy then..
so, you're only 15! (this exclamation
mark was necessary, believe me)
I guess I seem like a dinosaur to you? ;-) Hey
guys, how old are y'all btw? Am I the eldest (I'm 19) around here or
what? :(
so, let's get back to the subject: I think
it's rather sad to think that there is no meaning to life, but then again
you can see it the completely different way: knowing that there is no universal
meaning to life you can create your own personal meaning to it and who knows
maybe this is the actual meaning to our lives: "to take our lives and
hold them by the hand" (a bit changed Creed quote from WAWO) and make them
meaningfull (?) This way you won't be forced by some higher institution to
accept its meaning-of-life concept but you will be "master of your fate and
captain of your soul" (now where have I heard that before?? hehe.. that's a
quote, but unfortunately I don't know by whom, I just know it's by someone from
this list, either you, Jackson or Jim or.. ?)
And this is a very essential point I've got here
because to many people being religious and hence following certain rules and
having the meaning of life "forced upon" excludes being creative,
individual and self-centered (to a positive degree) - and this is just NOT
the case. This is a distorted view of religion which many people (even those who
call themselves religious) spread around and to me, religion is just a deep
experiencing of one's true self. Because we are in a way all Gods to ourselves
because there is God in us. (This is an extreme statement but if you get my
point you'll understand it.) And this is what differentiates us
from animals - not just the more complex insight (but the insight, too, of
course). This is my personal opinion.
To answer to your very eloquent
statement:
such a thing as a meaning can not be
seen, heard, smelt, tasted, or felt primvm dvm, ergo one is searching for
that which can not be found primvm dvm
I thought you believed in the transcendental = not
based on experience; innate in the mind, intuitively accepted (do
you?)
Well, I do. I believe there's more to reality than
our senses can perceive. And what about intuition etc. - isn't this something
like a sixth sense?
To quote the
olden lay,(who is this guy anyway?)
"...nothing is forever, not life, not love, not death, or loss. Only change
is eternal, and only destruction can the seed of creation form...for only in
acceptance of mortality will you learn the secrets of immortality...".
yeah, that's so true a quote! I'll have to
write it down in my quote book. I agree with it totally esp. the last part of
it!
Id est vocare, 'tis the very
realization of the finitude and lack of verifiable "meaning" in our lives that
prompts us to live forever in an other sense, -
that's more like it! to make our mark in this world, not in a
hypothetical afterlife. and this last bit is also true.. - I
see, we don't disagree completely
see, sometimes people who argue mean the same thing
without even knowing it (and I am NOT implying that this is the case here..
hehe.. but who knows, right?) They just have other definitions of things and
they move in parallel universes (sorta) so that they can't ever meet - that's
the idea I have, at least
what is "real?" -
yeah, that's a good philosophical question... and it proves to me (in a way)
that you are into transcendentalism because otherwise you wouldn't have asked
this question now, would you? Now refer to this theory of yours: such a thing as a meaning can not be seen,
heard, smelt, tasted, or felt primvm dvm, ergo one is searching for that
which can not be found primvm dvm and what do you make of it
now? I mean if you assume that real is only what you can see, hear, smell, taste
and feel than there's no need to ask for what's real anymore, is it?
to be continued.. (it got rejected and I had to copy it and divide it in
two parts.. so even though it's no trilogy it's a ... duality? could it
be?)