================================================ Subject: Re: Ewa and the Lost faith message From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Sun 20 May 2001 22:41:19 -0400 ================================================ Jackson Crawford wrote: > The idea of sacrifice is not one that appeals to me at all. 'Tis the same concept that communists and other totalitarianists use - "sacrifice yourself for the community," or "this sacrifice must be made for the people." 'Tis one o' those ideas that goes in cycles, with no real benefactors, usually. There are some exceptions, but as a general statement everything about >"sacrifice" just has a connotation that I do not like. > I think of sacrifice as to give up something that means something to you. So that you don't face the wrath of someone else that is in power over you. So the communist (Totalitarian version) or any other total control system would fit the sacrifice profile. I think that all of the moral laws and laws that limit others actions fit that description. Laws that protect others equally I see as respect. > > Interesting phrasology - "I don't classify myself as an Athiest or any >other particular religion." Atheism is typically defined as being the lack >of religion, but you seem to classify it as a religion itself. > I guess I consider to "religiously believe" in nothing is a religion in itself. I really would prefer the term non-religious, if that is what they mean to say. Though it sounds like the "Glass half empty or full" perspective on the wording. > Is this what you intend, or was the statement merely worded incorrectly in some way? >Although, Jim, you certainly do seem to have some excellent ideas on the >subject, "centrality" et cetera. More power to you in that department. > Though centrality is good for a balance. Most of us believe in either being of one extreme or the other. I did discuss something in relation to PH balance. But we are not talking about plain chemistry. But instead talking about thinking in terms of known and supposing ideas. Along with what makes you feel like you are who you are. Not to say that you are "I Am".(AKA - God). But are an image of "I Am". Thus, you can tell that the phylosophies of the belief in God have a play on my philosophy. > >The Raven is not a symbol of any "faith" on my account,...Edgar Allen Poe's poem of the same name is a favorite of mine as well, as is an anonymous lay titled "The Voice of the Raven," which I have been known to quote on the list. > I think the album was based on a lot of Edgar Allen Poes poetry. I think another song is the "Telltale Heart". another one called "Dr. Tarr and Professor feather. Since the Raven means at least something to your views. I thought that you would find the song interesting. -- One man's brain plus one other will produce one half as many ideas as one man would have produced alone. These two plus two more will produce half again as many ideas. These four plus four more begin to represent a creative meeting, and the ratio changes to one quarter as many ... -- Anthony Chevins To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp