================================================ Subject: Re: About all of this religious talk.... From: "Tatiana Istomin" To: Date: Thu 10 May 2001 09:51:40 -0400 ================================================ I can't talk for everyone but I know that I don't go to church and try to serve God to have a sense of belonging. As a matter of fact it's very hard to be a Christian. Of course it would be easier for me to say, there is nothing after death, there is no higher power, I can just live the way I want, do as I please, and take the easy way. But event's in my life lead me to believe there is God and a life after death. I hear a lot of people say that Christianity is for weak people that need something to depend on and believe in. I say you have to be a very strong person to be Christian to stand up for what you believe in. When you look back on history of Christianity you will see that they went through so much torture and millions and millions were killed for their belief, now you can't tell me they were weak and needed a sense of belonging. >>> Steve Arpey 05/09/01 08:56PM >>> I think Nora Illustrated my point much better than I could have. That is the level of fanatasism that scares me most. You see Nora, I happen to believe that we who choose not to waste our lives trying to get to a place that doesn't exist, will be the ones that have truely lived. Churches all over are filled with people as inept as you seem to be, who will gladly tithe to a church simply to feel a sense of belonging. I, however live each day in the company of truly interesting people, each with his or her OWN concepts of how we got here and why. Here's the catch though...We don't pretend to know the answer! It simply cannot be known. We don't try to convince anyone that our little theories are the only truth and scare thm into complacency. We just go on about our lives until our last breath leaves us, kmowing that we have used our bodies and minds in the capacity for which they were designed. We did not fall victim to geedy tyrants that want you to conform to their standards in order to maintain your usefulness to them. Life, to us, is not a shortcut to never neverland. It is a singular miracle that cannot be explained...only enjoyed. You suffer from the wicked fruit of your own vine. I will not live in fear. Steve To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp