================================================ Subject: Re: Odp: RE: RELIGIOUS TALK AND ALL!!!!! From: "Tara" To: Date: Thu 10 May 2001 19:16:17 -0400 ================================================ My opinion is that everyone should be entitled to their own beliefs. I'm not an atheist, but I do question a lot of Christian ideals and beliefs. I guess agnostic is the closest description. I try not to attack people for their beliefs, and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. My problem is that I can't believe (or disbelieve) information without proof. I'm one of those people who can argue both sides of almost any issue, whether I agree with that side or not. I realize that many times, the reasons Christians try to convert people to their beliefs is because they feel it's the right thing. Their intentions are good. Anyway, as far as hate mail goes... I haven't received any yet, and I hope that I don't... but if I do, I'll calmly and rationally explain why I feel the way I do. The thing about religion (or even the lack thereof) is, it's largely a matter of faith. You either have it, or you don't... it can't be forced. I wish people could just respect that not everyone thinks in the same way, or is capable of taking a leap of faith to believe in something without proof. Tara ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackson Crawford To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: Odp: RE: RELIGIOUS TALK AND ALL!!!!! > You've got some good points there Tara, and you're right, the atheists are > gettin' pray "dissed" as well! You should see some of the crap that people > have been sendin' me off-list! > > Jackson Wade Crawford - The Raven of Texas/ Corvvs Texanis/ Kruk Teksasu > International Director, Corvist Association for the Preservation and > Perpetuation of Free Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: Creed Discussion List [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM]On > Behalf Of Tara > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:43 PM > To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > Subject: Re: RELIGIOUS TALK AND ALL!!!!! > > > If you don't like that some people are "dissing" other people's gods, > perhaps you should look at it this way... for the people who are atheist on > this list and are being judged for that, they're also having their beliefs > "dissed". It goes both ways. However, Christians are generally (generally, > not always) the people who try to preach love for god and following the > commandments... how is it Christian to call someone an asshole because they > disagree with you? What happened to "turn the other cheek"? I don't > consider myself a Christian, yet I would never call someone an asshole > simply because they expressed an opinion that I don't agree with. I'm not > speaking for all Christians, but in my personal experiences, I would say > that I have higher moral standards than a lot of people who go to church > every Sunday and profess themselves to be Christian. Difference is, > although a lot of my beliefs are close to what's in the Bible, I behave the > way I do because I feel it's the right thing to do, not because I'm afraid > I'll go to hell if I don't. I have nothing against people of any religion > simply because of their beliefs, but I do have a problem with hypocrites. > And let me reiterate, I do not believe that all Christians are hypocrites, > it just seems to me that there's a fairly high percentage of people who call > themselves Christian, but then don't behave in the manner the Bible says > they should. I'm sure that there are also a lot of Christians who DO > practice what they preach. > *Done with the rant for now* > > Tara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris H. > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 10:41 PM > Subject: RELIGIOUS TALK AND ALL!!!!! > > > > OK SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A FEW OF US ARE NOT > > CHRISTIANS.THAT IS OK.BUT REALLY CAN WE STOP ALL THE > > TALK ABOUT IT?????? I MEAN I DON'T MIND VOICING MY > > OPINION BUT IT GETS WAY TO HARD FOR SOME.I FOR ONE > > REALLY DON'T LIKE TYHE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE DISSING > > SOMEONE ELSE'S GOD.THAT IS WRONG.SOME PEOPLE ARE > > KNOCKING YOURS SO DON'T DO IT TO OURS ASSHOLES.BE NICE > > FOR ONCE. > > > > C.M.H. > > > > P.S. 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