================================================ Subject: Re: Odp: RE: christianity and CREED From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Tue 8 May 2001 20:53:43 -0400 ================================================ I'd say that they are pretty good questions. You probably get a lot of bitterness from people denying that the dinasaurs ever inhabited the earth. Of course that would not explain what we are burning in our gas tanks though. We had to get fissil fuels from something. I heard something interesting about the time of man and the creation of the universe not fitting into the scientific equations though. The earth is younger than the scientists predicted. But then again, I can't say what source the information came from. It might of been from one of the Sunday morning shows or something. ]\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[ wrote: >I would just like to ask a couple of other questions ontop of those 3... >now, I have had lots of friends who are Christian, and I have never had >anything against them, nor what they choose to believe... but some questions >have always kinda been there in my mind, but everytime I asked them, someone >took offence. Was the Bible, the book about Christian faith, not written by >the same people that believed that the entire universe revolved around our >flat world? And another question that I have heard brought up by a couple >people... where is the mention of prehistoric life in the bible and >Christian faith? We know it happened... we have proof... solid physical >proof... and we know that there was a period of several hundred million >years where Dinosaurs cruised the world before man even existed... where is >there mention of them in the bible, and what part did they play in it? >Theoretically since they were the top of the food chain for all those years, >there would be some mention of them somehwere, but yet the book seems to >jump from the creation of the world to the creation of man... were some >chapter lost? Did someone just get lazy and leave that part out? Who did >they worship? What happened to them when they died if they didn't believe >in the Christian God? And the bible wasn't around since the beginning of >time, anymore than the Christian religion... what about everyone that died >before the bible and the religion... who (or what) did they worship, and >what became of them when they died? Did they get entry to heaven, even >though they never knew of such a place? What's the deal? I don't mean to >piss people off by these questions (why do I get a nagging feeling that some >people will take it personally though), I just think that if we're getting >into a religious debate, that now might be the time to ask and to get an >eplaination... or at least hear some other's theories on why these things >happened. > >¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ >http://NightStorm.isyourgod.com/ >NightStorm_Draco_@hotmail.com >NightStorm_Draco@creedlist.com >NightStorm@isyourgod.com >I've seen the wicked fruit of your vine, Destroy the man who lacks a strong >mind >Human pride sings a vengeful song Inspired by the times you've been walked >on >My stage is shared by many millions, Who lift their hands up high because >they feel this >We are one We are strong, The more you hold us down the more we press on >What if you did? What if you lied? What if I avenge? What if eye for an eye? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jackson Crawford >To: >Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 4:51 PM >Subject: Odp: RE: christianity and CREED > > >> Okay, I know, you probably think that I'm going to "flame" you or >> >whatever, > >>no, I respect your opines, but I just have a few questions - >>A) You claim that Christianity is not a "trend". This implicates that >> >it is > >>not growing, changing, developing, etc. in a given direction, as that is >> >the > >>general definition of a trend. Do you mean to imply that yours is a static >>faith or merely an orthodox one? Or do you mean something totally >> >different? > >>B) What do you mean by saying that "if what we believe isn't real >> >then why > >>would we be dying for our faith?"? Something does not have to be real for >>men to die for it. I don't understand this point at all. If we accept your >>statement as true, then we must believe that those who died for "other" >>faiths that were "not" true did not die! And what of the millions upon >>millions that have died in the last century of war? They may not have died >>for something that was tangibly "real", but they did die, there is no >>denying that. >>C) Yes, I will agree, current research indicates that a Jewish rabbi >> >by the > >>name of Jesus Christ (or the Hebrew equivalent thereof) did exist around >> >the > >>time and place of the New Testament. However, that does not mean that he >> >was > >>a superior being of any sort. It is likely that Jesus never claimed to the >>son of the Jewish god, but that Paul made most of that up decades later. >> >But > >>let's be logical, how can anyone prove a resurrection that supposedly >>occurred 2000 or so years ago? There's no way to prove that. However, if >> >you > >>can show me documentation of "proof" of any of this, I'd be very >> >interested. > >> Look, I mean no disrespect to you or to your faith. I mean only to >> >question > >>these statements that you seem to accept as true without much >> >consideration. > >> Best regards, >> >>Jackson Wade Crawford - The Raven of Texas/ Corvvs Texanis/ Kruk Teksasu >>International Director, Corvist Association for the Preservation and >>Perpetuation of Free Will >> > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: >http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > -- share, n.: To give in, endure humiliation. To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp