================================================ Subject: Re: NCR Re: Re: died in dreams???? ..... Were you "reincarnated"? From: "Tara" To: Date: Sat 5 May 2001 18:48:43 -0400 ================================================ I guess I'm referring to more "spiritual" type things in the "have to know about it to believe it" line of thought. For example, some cultures that aren't part of modern society don't believe in the Christian God, but their reason is simply that they've never heard the Western concepts of religion. They can't believe in "our" version of God, because they've never heard of it. I read a book when I was a kid called "On a Pale Horse"... the main character was Death. His job was to go around and, at the moment a person died, collect their soul. He'd then take his bag of souls and determine whether the soul was bound for heaven, hell, or purgatory. One man who's soul he was sent to collect was a devout atheist. Upon the man's passing, Death tried to collect the soul... but the soul just dissolved into dust. Death's reasoning was that the man's conviction was so strong, that he willed his soul not to exist beyond death... his soul couldn't be sent to whatever was beyond death, because he didn't believe in anything after death. (And in this book, God and Satan were both real beings). Just an interesting thought... can a person make something happen by believing in it (or against it) strongly enough? Might explain miracles, and how people can walk on coals without being injured, and that sort of thing... Tara ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackson Crawford To: CreedList ; Tara Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: RE: NCR Re: Re: died in dreams???? ..... Were you "reincarnated"? > That's a good point, about having to believe it for it to happen...maybe, > although we don't have to believe that blades will cut us for them to do > so... > ...or do we? Just a perplexing thought... > > Jackson Wade Crawford - The Raven of Texas/ Corvvs Texanis/ Kruk Teksasu > International Director, Corvist Association for the Preservation and > Perpetuation of Free Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: Creed Discussion List [mailto:CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM]On > Behalf Of Tara > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:20 PM > To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM > Subject: NCR Re: Re: died in dreams???? ..... Were you "reincarnated"? > > > I don't make a habit of dying in my dreams, but I do recall a couple times > that it happened... and as I survived both, I'd say it's not true that if > you die in your dreams you die in real life (unless you're in an episode of > Nightmare On Elm Street, that is). When I was about two, I had a dream in > which I was basically eaten by a monster. But the inside of the monster's > stomach was more like a complex computer lab, and I was in a tiny white box > on the wall of that lab, watching men work on the computers. Then when I > was 7 or 8, I had a dream in which I was being chased by a frog that kept > getting bigger, until it was probably a good 8 feet tall and chasing me on > it's hind legs... but then I fell into a puddle of honey and drowned. As I > was "dying", I was both experiencing it, and watching it happen from above > myself. Just a tad odd... lol. > I suppose you could argue that the reason I didn't die in real life is > because I hadn't yet heard the rumour about dying in dreams, and that you > have to believe in something like that in order for it to happen. > Tara > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp