================================================ Subject: Odp: RE: Odp: RE: Ending- philosophy question.. Beginning dreams question From: "Jackson Crawford" To: Date: Sat 5 May 2001 16:45:46 -0500 ================================================ It may have been a mistake on my part to categorize thought in the first place. Although some of us definitely do seem to favor numbers over words, and vice versa. I usually apply the term "semi-conscious" to a state in which we can interact with the outside world but, later, in full consciousness, we can not remember having done so. I was in a fight back in January during which I apparently entered this state - I still can't remember the fight itself, or anything about an hour subsequent to it, because I took a roundhouse to the base of the skull. However, I was not unconscious because my friends said that I was fighting back and that I was talking to them later. I wasn't conscious though, because I can't remember a moment of it. I pre'y much had What If figured out before I read the writs on it, but they just kind of confirmed what I had already thought of it. Jackson Wade Crawford - The Raven of Texas/ Corvvs Texanis/ Kruk Teksasu International Director, Corvist Association for the Preservation and Perpetuation of Free Will -----Original Message----- From: Creed - 7M3 - Live [mailto:creed7m3live@columbus.rr.com] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:43 PM To: Jackson Crawford Cc: CreedList Subject: Re: Odp: RE: Ending- philosophy question.. Beginning dreams question Jackson Crawford wrote: > Well, that's a slightly different slant on the numerical and literal >thinkers than I had intended. What I meant was that some think more in terms >of "litterae" (letters/ words) and others more in "nvmeri" (numbers). This >accounts in especial for the division betwixt the pure (i.e. numerical) and >the social (i.e. literal) sciences. > OK I get you on the numeric and literal. Except I took numeric to mean a direct value. Such as two apples. And I thought literal referred to a direct account of what someone said. Anyway, it just goes to show that our language is really messed up. i think we pollute the latin terms into mega-meaning words. So the words become about as meaninful as "what'cha ma'call'it" and "thinga mabob" I would classify thinking into several categories. According to what I have gotten from observing others in thier thoughts. 1) Follower - Just does what others do. Like a duck following another duck. - sort of like the pop scene. "The DJ plays a song over and over. So it must be good." 2) - never mind!!! there would be a whole lot of them. So I'll shift to the Creed music and what I heard about the songs. In short to not comment on each song in one mail. I heard reports that some of the songs came out from taking too much of the cow patty muchrooms. I believe that certain songs were inspired on reflection of near death experiences. I'd say that a lot of songs from MOP were a result of the reflection. > > On the subject of song inspirations, the only one that I know to have been >produced by a drugged mind is "Illusion". Most of the rest in MOP seem >inspired by real hardships, though I always thought that the song MOP was at >least allegorically,(figurative - the kind of language which says one thing, but means another) if not totally literally(real, not figurative or metaphorical), concerned with divine >judgment and subsequent damnation.- I think it is a song based on near death reflections of thought. I wonder what semiconciousness is considered. Is it sort of a dreaming reality? Seeing unreal things, when you are in reality. (Walking, talking, interacting, but seeing images that are supposed to be in dreams.Instead of being paralyzed in the sleeping state with visions of unreality in your head) > > The songs on HC on the other hand seem mostly to be dream-states, other than "Are You Ready", which seems like a direct address to those amongst us trying to separate from the crowd, > >"What If" which is directed at the media,- You got this one down pretty good. (Is it from reading about the song or your personal interpretation of i?). When the song first came out. that is exactly what they claimed the song to be about.WAWO which is pre'y obvious, "Wash Away Those Years" which is also obvious, and IUA which seems to be about losing friendships but maintaining hope.Something like that...I don't know, I'm rather aggravated right now with the falling-through of these plans, leaving me at home on another Friday >night...arrrrrrrgh...I've GOT to do something tomorrow. Anyway, on to the next message... > Good luck on you getting to do something on Saturday. It's a bumber that Friday had to be down for you. Here's hoping your Saturday is better. Later, Jim > >Jackson Wade Crawford - The Raven of Texas/ Corvvs Texanis/ Kruk Teksasu >International Director, Corvist Association for the Preservation and >Perpetuation of Free Will > -- When a lot of remedies are suggested for a disease, that means it can't be cured. -- Anton Chekhov, "The Cherry Orchard" To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp