================================================ Subject: Re: died in dreams???? ..... Were you "reincarnated"? From: "Creed - 7M3 - Live" To: Date: Fri 4 May 2001 23:41:20 -0400 ================================================ The part about suddenly waking up from the dream that ends in death is pretty interesting. I've woken up from dreams that got a little bit to close to getting killed in a dream. With Jackson's comment on having died in several dreams. I guess it is possible to make it through to die on another occasion. Unless you are extremely into getting "axed" in dreams, I guess you wouldn't normally look forward to the event. At least we seem to know that there is life after a dream death. since their are survivors in the physical world to prove it. About learning to control your dreams. That is what I try to do myself. If a situation is a little bit trying. I'll try to get a power or change the outcome like a director. The only frestyle dreams I have are the ones that I dream in cartoons or colors. If there is something that is really bothering me in the real world. I'll go through an animated dream or a dream of spiraling colors. Which I guide my ideas into more pleasing colors. I had a similar conversation with another lister who also was discussing dreams. About the movie "The Matrix", it is a pretty good example of the concept. Are we a computer generated interactive program or are we really hear. Do our minds power some machine and we are actually living as some sort of energy source to power some other machine. Its great to hear from you Scott on this rather strange subject. If we lay the groundwork right. We might be able to figure out where the material for Human Clay came from. We'll see. Jim PS - Check out the fortune about Peter Frampton at the bottom of the message. ]\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[ wrote: >Well, some think that if you die in a dream, that the trauma that the brain >goes through in it's subconcious is just too much, and it actually ceases to >function, causing death... I guess the case of "The Matrix" would be a good >example... but others have claimed to have survived death in a dream on >several occasions, stating that when you "die" you simply wake up... >probably rather suddenly and a little bit traumatised. I guess it would all >be a matter of convincing your subconcious that it is nothing more than >that.... your subconcious... seperate from reality. Our roomate is very big >on Lucid Dreaming... learning to control your dreams through concentration >and a little meditating... I imagine that would be a great way to learn to >teach your mind of the difference in realities. I guess what it all comes >down to is will power. > >¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ >http://NightStorm.isyourgod.com/ >NightStorm_Draco_@hotmail.com >NightStorm_Draco@creedlist.com >NightStorm@isyourgod.com >I've seen the wicked fruit of your vine, Destroy the man who lacks a strong >mind >Human pride sings a vengeful song Inspired by the times you've been walked >on >My stage is shared by many millions, Who lift their hands up high because >they feel this >We are one We are strong, The more you hold us down the more we press on >What if you did? What if you lied? What if I avenge? What if eye for an eye? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Creed - 7M3 - Live >To: >Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:19 PM >Subject: Re: died in dreams???? ..... Were you "reincarnated"? > > >>I have to ask you about the dream mortalities. I've always heard a rumor >>that if you died in your dreams, that you would die in real life. I >>never pushed the theory to test the validity of it and don't have any >>intentions to put it to the test. >>Anyway, when you come back for another dream life. Do you come back as a >>different being? >>In a superstitious stance. I fear that either I'd quit dreaming or never >>wake up from the dream. >> >>It's good to know that someone actually survived a death in a dream. >> >>Were they deaths from duals, dangerous stunts, runaway busses, metorite >>collisions or jealous boyfriends? >> >>Later, >> >>Jim >> >>Jackson Crawford wrote: >> >>>Well, I shouldn't think that the dream world is the real world, because >>>I've died there several times over. I >>> >> >>-- >> "I don't know what you mean by 'glory'," Alice said. >> Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't -- >>till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'" >> "But glory doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice >>objected. >> "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful >>tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less." >> "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean >>so many different things." >> "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master -- >>that's all." >> -- Lewis Carrol, "Through the Looking Glass" >> >>To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, >> >visit: > >>http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp >> > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: >http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > -- You can't erase a dream, you can only wake me up. -- Peter Frampton To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp