================================================ Subject: Odp: RE: Odp: RE: Odp: RE: Way NCR - philosophy question From: "Jackson Crawford" To: Date: Fri 4 May 2001 16:35:34 -0500 ================================================ This subject line is getting out of hand! Well, I shouldn't think that the dream world is the real world, because I've died there several times over. Interesting idea, though! I don't think that i "have you beaten" in any area. You're older than me, which gives you experience that is arguably much more helpful in making decisions than simple, raw knowledge. It might be reasonable to assume that you are a numerical and that I am a literal thinker, however, because the lines between these two types are sometimes confused as the lines between the fools and the wisemen, whenever the crowd doing the judgment is predominantly one of the two. Hope to see more of this discussion in the future, but for now, I need to be going. Have fun everyone, and rock on! Jackson Wade Crawford - The Raven of Texas/ Corvvs Texanis/ Kruk Teksasu International Director, Corvist Association for the Preservation and Perpetuation of Free Will -----Original Message----- From: Creed - 7M3 - Live [mailto:creed7m3live@columbus.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:59 PM To: Jackson Crawford Cc: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM Subject: Re: Odp: RE: Odp: RE: Way NCR - philosophy question It just sounds strange to me that we learn all of this stuff and do not continue the information or being after our lives. It's strange that some people think that you become reincarnated into lifeforms according to your deeds. Others believe that the dream world is the real world and this world is the dream world. Anyway, I would like believe that after I pass through this being. I dont become like a computer turned off and the cord cut off. I'd like to believe that I continue on with being and presence and have an active growing conscience. Being that I'm dispersing energy and matter. I hope I can hold my being together to transcend into a different and better plane of existence. I have no idea of how we got here or if the universe was helped along by matter that could direct other matter and energy into its own design. Or if it had conscienceness enough to botch things up enough to give us the present state of the universe. Anyway, I guess that familiarity breeds conformity, stability and the lack of design or conscience expansion. (Thus backward religions that hold out against the evils of electricity, technology and certain actions.Wear sheets, worship cows, golden idols, livestock and maybe even the folks like myself that believe that my being is bonded together, interacts with floating conscious energy that help me out and protects me.) Also, I'm impressed by your intellect and you being 15 from previous mails that I read. I guess age doesn't determine the amount of intellectual being. Because you sound like you have me beat in a lot of phylosophical areas already. In another note to the basher turned Creed curious. Welcome back to the list. As others stated about the album. It will be produced by John again on his shuffling amoung other album projects. The album isn't going to be started until July. The album will be either late this year or early next year. Jackson Crawford wrote: > This is interesting, in especial because your concept of the universe's >being an accident implies that there was something/ someone there that had >other intentions, that slipped up and brought it in to existence by mistake, >without intending to do so ("Damn! Does a new plane of existence just HAVE >to form every time that I make instant coffee?"). > The idea of the existence of conscious or even semi-conscious "energy" or >"matter" beyond our current knowledge and concept of life is absolutely >fascinating. Frankly, though, I'm no physical scientist and I do not intend >to be one, so I can't really offer any ideas in our search for that which we >cannot truly define. I'll stick to more familiar territory. > >Jackson Wade Crawford - The Raven of Texas/ Corvvs Texanis/ Kruk Teksasu >International Director, Corvist Association for the Preservation and >Perpetuation of Free Will > -- Priority: A statement of the importance of a user or a program. Often expressed as a relative priority, indicating that the user doesn't care when the work is completed so long as he is treated less badly than someone else. To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp