================================================ Subject: NCR: Odp: RE: Pre'y Obvious From: "Jackson Crawford" To: Date: Mon 16 Apr 2001 19:11:08 -0500 ================================================ Interesting question, Chris, but the truth is that, since I've never had a girlfriend, fiance, wife, etc., (or even a date, although I've tried about 13 times this year alone) I really don't know jack about Christian-Atheist *relationships*, per se. However, I have had a friend named Meredith who for the longest time I had tried to get to become my girlfriend or whatever, but who had always refused because she wants to devote her entire existence to god. This, and my many good friendships throughout my life, have given me some insight in to the subject of Christian-Atheist *friendships*, though not necessarily *relationships*. What is really tricky is to balance that innate Atheist desire to tear religion to shreds with logic, with that innate Christian desire to save the infidel's soul. Now, as long as she's not bent on convincing you that there is no god, and so long as you're not absolutely convinced that she's going to go to hell for not believing, you should be able to live relatively happily together (as much as is possible anyway). You kind of have to look at it the way that a lot of my friends look at it: an atheist is not going to go to heaven or to hell because he doesn't believe that either exist in the first place. A Christian, who believes in heaven, and does everything in his power to ensure his place there, will go there. But a Christian that defies the principles considered necessary to go there (id est vocare - don't murder, don't steal, et cetera) will go to hell. Basically - what you don't believe in can't hurt you. But if you do believe in it, and yet you defy it, it will screw you. So 'tis a measure of faith and hypocrisy - as long as she doesn't believe in any god, there's no belief about which to be hypocrital, ergo no punishment for infidelity. Or, what should really be the simplest thing would be to leave religion out of the relationship entirely. As if that was possible (just wait til your first Sunday morning together, man, and you'll know what I mean...) Look, I'm not going to pretend to be of expert knowledge in a subject where I'm not, but I am, as always, just trying to help. I hope that I've been of some minor assistance at the least. Best of luck to you. As usual, have fun (whatever your religion, or lack thereof), and rock on! Jackson Wade Crawford - The Raven of Texas/ Corvvs Texanis Our Gracious Lord and Master To Whom All Praise and Money Are Rightly and Verily Due of the International Enchanting Swordsmen Rifts Campaign International Director, Corvist Association for the Preservation and Perpetuation of Free Will -----Original Message----- From: Chris H. [mailto:attitune15@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 4:57 PM To: Jackson Crawford Subject: Re: Pre'y Obvious my finace' is some what athiest and we are getting married.how do we do that do you know? Chris To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp