================================================ Subject: Re: Unsubscribing troubles information From: "Jim A. Cornette" To: Date: Fri 23 Mar 2001 22:29:52 -0500 ================================================ Tara, Thanks for forwarding the explaination. I forgot about that problem. When I was on lists that had a style set in the message. HTML, Stationary or the like. I had to remove all styles from my supposedly blank messages. I was using Juno Mail at the time. I forgot about the added signatures from the email provider. - Jim Tara wrote: > I just e-mailed Ed Kiang with some suggestions for the problems we're > having, and he made an interesting point in his response... hotmail > and MSN add signature blocks to any mail sent out, which means that > the unsub request may have an error. To explain further, have you > ever noticed that when someone sends you mail from, say, hotmail, > there's a little advertisement type thing at the bottom, that says > something like "Get your FREE e-mail account from hotmail.com" or > something similar to that? Well, when you send commands to listserv, > the only thing that's supposed to be in the message body is the > command. Since hotmail (and some other mail programs) add this > signature line on AFTER you send your mail, there's nothing the person > sending it can do about it, and it creates an error in the command. > So that's probably the trouble people have been having with the error > messages when they're apparently doing everything correctly. He did > say that he was working on removing people manually, so my suggestion > to those people who don't want all these e-mails, is to put the > address Creed-discuss@winduplist.com > in your blocked senders list, > then everything will be automatically sent to your deleted items > folder. I would suggest, if you haven't done so already, sending one > short message to Ed Kiang requesting that he remove you from the > list... and please be nice, remember that he has to take these > hundreds (?) of people off of the list manually. So, if you're using > a mail program that adds a message line, try to be patient, and you > should be off the list soon. > > Good luck to everyone... > > Tara > There's No Way Out Of Here -(K. Baker) There's no way out of here, When you come in, You're in for good, There was no promise made,The part you played,The chance you took There are no boundaries set, The time and yet,You waste it still, So it slips through your hands,Like grains of sand, You watch it go There's no time to be lost,You'll pay the cost,So get it right, There's no way out of here,When you come in, You're in for good, There never was there an answer,There an answer,Not without listening,Without seeing There are no answers here,When you look out,You don't see in, There was no promise made,The part you played,The chance you took There's no way out of here, When you come in,You're in for good, There never was there an answer,There an answer,Not without listening,Without seeing, There's no way out of here,When you come in,You're in for good There was no promise made,The part you played,The chance you took There's no way out of here,When you come in,You're in for good There's no way out of here,When you come in,You're in for good There are no answers here,When you look out,You don't see in, There's no way out of here,When you come in,You're in for good