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There is a high degree of in-fighting that goes on here, but as I'm oft wont to explain to people, you have the option of either engaging or not engaging anyone on the list in conversation (read: use your killfile - you'll never hear from them again). Oh, and as far as I can tell, this is a gathering of Creed fans who discuss a variety of topics. This is not a prayer group organized to worship at the altar of Scott Stapp. If, however, you'd like to talk about Creed, fantastic. I'd LOVE to talk about Creed. Here's an idea: let's talk about what YOU want to talk about. Post a Creed-related message and we'll see who runs with it. No offense, but it's one thing to complain, it's another to do something about what you dont like and try to CHANGE the situation.