================================================ Subject: Re: True Disciple (Creed) The IT? From: "Lee Reed" To: Date: Sun 20 Jan 2002 01:06:40 -0500 ================================================ i haven't seen if paul's replied yet, but joe, i sure like your reply... >From: Joe Earles >Reply-To: Joe Earles >To: CREED-DISCUSS@WINDUPLIST.COM >Subject: Re: True Disciple (Creed) The IT? >Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:52:48 -0500 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" >To: >Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 3:30 PM >Subject: Re: True Disciple (Creed) The IT? > > >Paul: > It's wonderful that you're finding faith in your God through Creed... >but I think you might be looking too deeply into their songs and >translating >them to suit your own purposes (which is fine) instead of looking at them >for how they were really written. > >_____________ > >I have to agree with this point. There have been plenty of songs >(especially >when I was younger) that within the context of my life seemed to have a LOT >of personal meaning and application, but were in reality just songs. While >I believe that Creed's music does have a strong spiritual dimension I don't >find thier music to be evangelical in nature, nor do I think that the >Gospel >is conveyed clearly enough for their songs to be responsible for anyone >accepting Christ as their Savior. those of us who have been through some >kind of spiritual ringer in our lives can relate to what Scott has to say >on >a lot of levels, but there is a clear attiude of struggle in thier music. > >"But Joe, aren't we supposed to take up our cross daily and follow Christ?" >Yes, for the Christian that would be true. Simple living can be a struggle. >However, I believe that God expects us to look to HIM for strength, NOT to >our CD collection. > >____________________ > >Meaning behind most of their songs have >already been covered (by the band) and very rarely are they so linked to >the >bible as you are claiming. Bullets, as several have stated, is more about >the lies and private lives that have found their way into print than about >the bible (one part, or entire verses). But, each is free to interpret a >song in any way they choose... but to claim that their way is the only >right >way, and then to say that they are only trying to prove that Creed is a >biblical band (what's with the "Disciple" subject, anyway?) is a bit >overkill. >_______________________ > >You could find Biblical parallels in anyone's music - The Bible was meant >to >be universally topical and applicable so it's feasable that you can find >some verse somewhere and apply it to any song (albeit totally and >completely >out of context). > >_________________ > > Out of personal curiosity, how do you interpret "Faceless Man" and "My >Own Prison"? > >___________________ > >I know you didn't ask me..... but if you look at both of these songs, they >seem to be told from opposite sides of the fence. MOP being a song about a >man in spiritual torment and Faceless Man being a song about a man who has >come to a place of peace with his interpretation of the Gospel. The face >on >the water is clearly the face of Christ, the Faceless Man clearly the sin >nature of mankind. > >_________________ > > Oh, and telling people to "check the lyrics" and saying that they are >analyzing the song wrong, is in itself wrong. This is a place where one is >free to speak opinion, and you will find that each person WILL check the >lyrics prior to analyzing a song. > And may I also point out that love in a God is welcome here, but >attempting to convert people to the choice of one God by way of personal >opinion in a song will usually be met with resistance. Many people here >are >fans of Creed not because the occasional person will come along and lay >claim to the lyrics as being strait from the bible (not denying that the >bible hasn't influenced some of their lyrics, but the band is far from >Disciples of your God), but instead because of the message that THEY get >from the music and lyrics. And if you ask around, a lot will also say that >they don't get any sort of religious meaning from the songs... the band >included. > >________________ > >I don't think that they've ever come out and said that their lyrics aren't >spiritually motivated but they have said that they have no overall agenda. >Translation: "We're not trying to save anyone, we're not trying to convert >anyone. If you find some sort of deep personal thing in our music that >moves >you spiritually, serendipity, bay-bee!" > >To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, >visit: >http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp