================================================ Subject: Re: True Disciple (Creed) The IT? From: "Dave Brush" To: Date: Sun 20 Jan 2002 00:25:59 -0500 ================================================ Well put. I almost said something similar (though almost definitely shorter) but think you put thing better than I would have. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 3:30 PM Subject: Re: True Disciple (Creed) The IT? > Paul: > It's wonderful that you're finding faith in your God through Creed... > but I think you might be looking too deeply into their songs and translating > them to suit your own purposes (which is fine) instead of looking at them > for how they were really written. Meaning behind most of their songs have > already been covered (by the band) and very rarely are they so linked to the > bible as you are claiming. Bullets, as several have stated, is more about > the lies and private lives that have found their way into print than about > the bible (one part, or entire verses). But, each is free to interpret a > song in any way they choose... but to claim that their way is the only right > way, and then to say that they are only trying to prove that Creed is a > biblical band (what's with the "Disciple" subject, anyway?) is a bit > overkill. > Out of personal curiosity, how do you interpret "Faceless Man" and "My > Own Prison"? > Oh, and telling people to "check the lyrics" and saying that they are > analyzing the song wrong, is in itself wrong. This is a place where one is > free to speak opinion, and you will find that each person WILL check the > lyrics prior to analyzing a song. > And may I also point out that love in a God is welcome here, but > attempting to convert people to the choice of one God by way of personal > opinion in a song will usually be met with resistance. Many people here are > fans of Creed not because the occasional person will come along and lay > claim to the lyrics as being strait from the bible (not denying that the > bible hasn't influenced some of their lyrics, but the band is far from > Disciples of your God), but instead because of the message that THEY get > from the music and lyrics. And if you ask around, a lot will also say that > they don't get any sort of religious meaning from the songs... the band > included. > Debates regarding the music of Creed are always welcome here... and you > are definitely providing some wonderful points to your side... but be sure > to mention the part about it all being "in your opinion" (IMO is a wonderful > shortcut and disclaimer), as others won't always agree with your > translation. Oh, and a forewarning (not that it has happened yet)... > attempts to convert people to a certain God will always be met with forms of > hostility... so be careful in certain wordings. ;) > Again, welcome to the list, and hope to hear more from you regarding > other Creed songs in the future. One more little thing... when you reply, > to avoid confusions, could you include a bit of the post you are replying > to, so that we know to whom it is directed? > > ¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ > http://www.isyourgod.com > NightStorm_Draco_@hotmail.com > Admin@AmericanPearlFan.cjb.net > NightStorm_Draco@isyourgod.com > I've seen the wicked fruit of your vine, Destroy the man who lacks a strong > mind > Human pride sings a vengeful song Inspired by the times you've been walked > on > My stage is shared by many millions, Who lift their hands up high because > they feel this > We are one We are strong, The more you hold us down the more we press on > What if you did? What if you lied? What if I avenge? What if eye for an eye? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Porter" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: True Disciple (Creed) The IT? > > > | Hi, > | Check the lyrics, > | They shoot cause they want it . > | (they being, those who live in the shadows) The Peace that comes with > | understanding. They do want your life, your Spiritual Life. > | > | Hey > ..........Stapp,Tremonti, > | and Myself have one thing in common (that I know of) we know the Bible. > They > | relay this knowledge in almost every song they do. > | All I seek to do is help anyone who chooses to believe learn. > | Paul > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp