================================================ Subject: Re: True Disciple (Creed) The IT? From: "]\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" To: Date: Sat 19 Jan 2002 15:30:35 -0500 ================================================ Paul: It's wonderful that you're finding faith in your God through Creed... but I think you might be looking too deeply into their songs and translating them to suit your own purposes (which is fine) instead of looking at them for how they were really written. Meaning behind most of their songs have already been covered (by the band) and very rarely are they so linked to the bible as you are claiming. Bullets, as several have stated, is more about the lies and private lives that have found their way into print than about the bible (one part, or entire verses). But, each is free to interpret a song in any way they choose... but to claim that their way is the only right way, and then to say that they are only trying to prove that Creed is a biblical band (what's with the "Disciple" subject, anyway?) is a bit overkill. Out of personal curiosity, how do you interpret "Faceless Man" and "My Own Prison"? Oh, and telling people to "check the lyrics" and saying that they are analyzing the song wrong, is in itself wrong. This is a place where one is free to speak opinion, and you will find that each person WILL check the lyrics prior to analyzing a song. And may I also point out that love in a God is welcome here, but attempting to convert people to the choice of one God by way of personal opinion in a song will usually be met with resistance. Many people here are fans of Creed not because the occasional person will come along and lay claim to the lyrics as being strait from the bible (not denying that the bible hasn't influenced some of their lyrics, but the band is far from Disciples of your God), but instead because of the message that THEY get from the music and lyrics. And if you ask around, a lot will also say that they don't get any sort of religious meaning from the songs... the band included. Debates regarding the music of Creed are always welcome here... and you are definitely providing some wonderful points to your side... but be sure to mention the part about it all being "in your opinion" (IMO is a wonderful shortcut and disclaimer), as others won't always agree with your translation. Oh, and a forewarning (not that it has happened yet)... attempts to convert people to a certain God will always be met with forms of hostility... so be careful in certain wordings. ;) Again, welcome to the list, and hope to hear more from you regarding other Creed songs in the future. One more little thing... when you reply, to avoid confusions, could you include a bit of the post you are replying to, so that we know to whom it is directed? ¤]\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[¤ http://www.isyourgod.com NightStorm_Draco_@hotmail.com Admin@AmericanPearlFan.cjb.net NightStorm_Draco@isyourgod.com I've seen the wicked fruit of your vine, Destroy the man who lacks a strong mind Human pride sings a vengeful song Inspired by the times you've been walked on My stage is shared by many millions, Who lift their hands up high because they feel this We are one We are strong, The more you hold us down the more we press on What if you did? What if you lied? What if I avenge? What if eye for an eye? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Porter" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 2:41 PM Subject: Re: True Disciple (Creed) The IT? | Hi, | Check the lyrics, | They shoot cause they want it . | (they being, those who live in the shadows) The Peace that comes with | understanding. They do want your life, your Spiritual Life. | | Hey ..........Stapp,Tremonti, | and Myself have one thing in common (that I know of) we know the Bible. They | relay this knowledge in almost every song they do. | All I seek to do is help anyone who chooses to believe learn. | Paul To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.winduplist.com/ls/discuss/form.asp